HR Process gone wrong - threats of releasing company view of the situation to people outside the company
A friend of mine applied at a small company, the CEO being a more or less well known figure in a moderately sized field of experts. The hiring process stalled, and there were errors on both sides, and ultimately no binding contract was reached, and my friend decided for another company. The CEO is now so upset (claiming waste of resources and time) that he/she threatens my friend with making their view of the story semi-public in the field.
I don't want to have a legal answer (most likely this is not legal, but hard to prove).
What I want to know:
- is this something which is common?
- how unprofessional would such a sharing of information be perceived?
- Is it likely that other people take anecdotes told in such a setting seriously (I would not, since i consider people violating the confidentiality of the HR process grossly unprofessional)?
- how to react? (that may include seeking for legal help, but also other things)
human-resources confidentiality unprofessional
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A friend of mine applied at a small company, the CEO being a more or less well known figure in a moderately sized field of experts. The hiring process stalled, and there were errors on both sides, and ultimately no binding contract was reached, and my friend decided for another company. The CEO is now so upset (claiming waste of resources and time) that he/she threatens my friend with making their view of the story semi-public in the field.
I don't want to have a legal answer (most likely this is not legal, but hard to prove).
What I want to know:
- is this something which is common?
- how unprofessional would such a sharing of information be perceived?
- Is it likely that other people take anecdotes told in such a setting seriously (I would not, since i consider people violating the confidentiality of the HR process grossly unprofessional)?
- how to react? (that may include seeking for legal help, but also other things)
human-resources confidentiality unprofessional
asked yesterday
SaschaSascha
7,68521636
3
"how to react?" - unless your friend did something completely stupid and unprofessional, the best course of action is to ignore it. It's almost certainly just an angry reaction that will amount to nothing. I don't see where this has anything to do with HR, though.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
7
I'm happy for him that he didn't end up taking the job and working for this guy.
– Winks
yesterday
1
@Winks: thats also what I said.....
– Sascha
23 hours ago
1
@JoeStrazzere: it was somewhat unprofessional - canceling on Friday evening before the company planned that they my friend arrives on Monday, but the company actually failed to send a signed offer until that day - but I prsonally think that threatening people with such actions is never professional.
– Sascha
22 hours ago
2
Sounds like the Michael Cohen strategy--a series of bombastic threats followed by...nothing.
– AffableAmbler
16 hours ago
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A friend of mine applied at a small company, the CEO being a more or less well known figure in a moderately sized field of experts. The hiring process stalled, and there were errors on both sides, and ultimately no binding contract was reached, and my friend decided for another company. The CEO is now so upset (claiming waste of resources and time) that he/she threatens my friend with making their view of the story semi-public in the field.
I don't want to have a legal answer (most likely this is not legal, but hard to prove).
What I want to know:
- is this something which is common?
- how unprofessional would such a sharing of information be perceived?
- Is it likely that other people take anecdotes told in such a setting seriously (I would not, since i consider people violating the confidentiality of the HR process grossly unprofessional)?
- how to react? (that may include seeking for legal help, but also other things)
human-resources confidentiality unprofessional
asked yesterday
SaschaSascha
7,68521636
A friend of mine applied at a small company, the CEO being a more or less well known figure in a moderately sized field of experts. The hiring process stalled, and there were errors on both sides, and ultimately no binding contract was reached, and my friend decided for another company. The CEO is now so upset (claiming waste of resources and time) that he/she threatens my friend with making their view of the story semi-public in the field.
I don't want to have a legal answer (most likely this is not legal, but hard to prove).
What I want to know:
- is this something which is common?
- how unprofessional would such a sharing of information be perceived?
- Is it likely that other people take anecdotes told in such a setting seriously (I would not, since i consider people violating the confidentiality of the HR process grossly unprofessional)?
- how to react? (that may include seeking for legal help, but also other things)
human-resources confidentiality unprofessional
human-resources confidentiality unprofessional
asked yesterday
SaschaSascha
7,68521636
asked yesterday
SaschaSascha
7,68521636
asked yesterday
SaschaSascha
7,68521636
asked yesterday
SaschaSascha
7,68521636
asked yesterday
SaschaSascha
7,68521636
7,68521636
3
"how to react?" - unless your friend did something completely stupid and unprofessional, the best course of action is to ignore it. It's almost certainly just an angry reaction that will amount to nothing. I don't see where this has anything to do with HR, though.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
7
I'm happy for him that he didn't end up taking the job and working for this guy.
– Winks
yesterday
1
@Winks: thats also what I said.....
– Sascha
23 hours ago
1
@JoeStrazzere: it was somewhat unprofessional - canceling on Friday evening before the company planned that they my friend arrives on Monday, but the company actually failed to send a signed offer until that day - but I prsonally think that threatening people with such actions is never professional.
– Sascha
22 hours ago
2
Sounds like the Michael Cohen strategy--a series of bombastic threats followed by...nothing.
– AffableAmbler
16 hours ago
add a comment |
3
"how to react?" - unless your friend did something completely stupid and unprofessional, the best course of action is to ignore it. It's almost certainly just an angry reaction that will amount to nothing. I don't see where this has anything to do with HR, though.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
7
I'm happy for him that he didn't end up taking the job and working for this guy.
– Winks
yesterday
1
@Winks: thats also what I said.....
– Sascha
23 hours ago
1
@JoeStrazzere: it was somewhat unprofessional - canceling on Friday evening before the company planned that they my friend arrives on Monday, but the company actually failed to send a signed offer until that day - but I prsonally think that threatening people with such actions is never professional.
– Sascha
22 hours ago
2
Sounds like the Michael Cohen strategy--a series of bombastic threats followed by...nothing.
– AffableAmbler
16 hours ago
3
3
"how to react?" - unless your friend did something completely stupid and unprofessional, the best course of action is to ignore it. It's almost certainly just an angry reaction that will amount to nothing. I don't see where this has anything to do with HR, though.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
"how to react?" - unless your friend did something completely stupid and unprofessional, the best course of action is to ignore it. It's almost certainly just an angry reaction that will amount to nothing. I don't see where this has anything to do with HR, though.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
7
7
I'm happy for him that he didn't end up taking the job and working for this guy.
– Winks
yesterday
I'm happy for him that he didn't end up taking the job and working for this guy.
– Winks
yesterday
1
1
@Winks: thats also what I said.....
– Sascha
23 hours ago
@Winks: thats also what I said.....
– Sascha
23 hours ago
1
1
@JoeStrazzere: it was somewhat unprofessional - canceling on Friday evening before the company planned that they my friend arrives on Monday, but the company actually failed to send a signed offer until that day - but I prsonally think that threatening people with such actions is never professional.
– Sascha
22 hours ago
@JoeStrazzere: it was somewhat unprofessional - canceling on Friday evening before the company planned that they my friend arrives on Monday, but the company actually failed to send a signed offer until that day - but I prsonally think that threatening people with such actions is never professional.
– Sascha
22 hours ago
2
2
Sounds like the Michael Cohen strategy--a series of bombastic threats followed by...nothing.
– AffableAmbler
16 hours ago
Sounds like the Michael Cohen strategy--a series of bombastic threats followed by...nothing.
– AffableAmbler
16 hours ago
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is this something which is common?
Not common in terms of generally happens, but it is common for some individuals to make threats whenever things don't go their way.
Best to ignore it, the thing about well known figures that do this sort of thing is that everyone already knows what they're like and will probably think you dodged a bullet rather than anything worse. These sorts of people get a rep for giving one-sided arguments and exaggerating. Most of the time however it's just a threat, it's actually detrimental to them and the company to follow through and action it.
I've had multiple threats over my career from CEO's including letters delivered by lawyers, none of them have amounted to anything. I didn't even bother reading the letters. Just thanked the lawyer for visiting, offered them a cup of tea and chucked the letter in the bin in front of them.
how to react?
Ignore any communications, do not reply, do not acknowledge receipt even. You only react when there is something worth reacting to. Don't get into a dialogue or anything else, that just creates wiggle room and makes it look like it's an actual issue that needs to be addressed. Leave the ball in their court to frustrate themselves with bouncing it off a wall.
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KilisiKilisi
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This is the only answer. this question needs
– Richard U
yesterday
I'd just take the letter out of the bin once the lawyer is gone, just in case. They might make some false claims what was in the letter at some point in the future.
– gnasher729
22 hours ago
1
@gnasher729 to which you reply you didn't read it... I've had a couple, didn't read either, neither know nor care what the contents were. A lawyer delivering you a letter doesn't obligate you to read it.
– Kilisi
22 hours ago
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Let the CEO shoot themselves in the foot.
This is an extremely unprofessional threat that the CEO is making, and can have serious legal ramifications to them (depends on jurisdiction and if any personal information is involved). I certainly would not take seriously a CEO who rants like Trump about issues that aren't that big of a deal.
If they do dig their own grave, it'll be up to your friend to decide whether they want to push the CEO in it by releasing their side of the story as a response. Bear in mind that your friend won't really gain anything from this besides possible exposure, the kind of which which won't be career-helpful.
I would certainly recommend talking to a lawyer regarding the legal aspects IF the CEO makes good on their threat.
answered 20 hours ago
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is this something which is common?
No.
how unprofessional would such a sharing of information be perceived?
Fairly unprofessional (from the CEO), unless there was some egregious misconducted, and even then, it's the wrong way to handle it. It will almost certainly make the CEO look bad
Is it likely that other people take anecdotes told in such a setting
seriously (I would not, since i consider people violating the
confidentiality of the HR process grossly unprofessional)?
People were certainly draw their conclusions, but this will mainly reflect badly on the CEO. Regardless of what happens, going public really makes you look unprofessional and like sore looser. Especially in this case, where there is clearly culpability on the CEO as well.
how to react? (that may include seeking for legal help, but also other
things)
Ignore it. This is more risk to the CEO than it is to the candidate. If any, it'll make him/her more interesting to talk to.
answered 16 hours ago
HilmarHilmar
26.8k66481
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is this something which is common?
Not common in terms of generally happens, but it is common for some individuals to make threats whenever things don't go their way.
Best to ignore it, the thing about well known figures that do this sort of thing is that everyone already knows what they're like and will probably think you dodged a bullet rather than anything worse. These sorts of people get a rep for giving one-sided arguments and exaggerating. Most of the time however it's just a threat, it's actually detrimental to them and the company to follow through and action it.
I've had multiple threats over my career from CEO's including letters delivered by lawyers, none of them have amounted to anything. I didn't even bother reading the letters. Just thanked the lawyer for visiting, offered them a cup of tea and chucked the letter in the bin in front of them.
how to react?
Ignore any communications, do not reply, do not acknowledge receipt even. You only react when there is something worth reacting to. Don't get into a dialogue or anything else, that just creates wiggle room and makes it look like it's an actual issue that needs to be addressed. Leave the ball in their court to frustrate themselves with bouncing it off a wall.
answered yesterday
KilisiKilisi
113k62250436
This is the only answer. this question needs
– Richard U
yesterday
I'd just take the letter out of the bin once the lawyer is gone, just in case. They might make some false claims what was in the letter at some point in the future.
– gnasher729
22 hours ago
1
@gnasher729 to which you reply you didn't read it... I've had a couple, didn't read either, neither know nor care what the contents were. A lawyer delivering you a letter doesn't obligate you to read it.
– Kilisi
22 hours ago
add a comment |
is this something which is common?
Not common in terms of generally happens, but it is common for some individuals to make threats whenever things don't go their way.
Best to ignore it, the thing about well known figures that do this sort of thing is that everyone already knows what they're like and will probably think you dodged a bullet rather than anything worse. These sorts of people get a rep for giving one-sided arguments and exaggerating. Most of the time however it's just a threat, it's actually detrimental to them and the company to follow through and action it.
I've had multiple threats over my career from CEO's including letters delivered by lawyers, none of them have amounted to anything. I didn't even bother reading the letters. Just thanked the lawyer for visiting, offered them a cup of tea and chucked the letter in the bin in front of them.
how to react?
Ignore any communications, do not reply, do not acknowledge receipt even. You only react when there is something worth reacting to. Don't get into a dialogue or anything else, that just creates wiggle room and makes it look like it's an actual issue that needs to be addressed. Leave the ball in their court to frustrate themselves with bouncing it off a wall.
answered yesterday
KilisiKilisi
113k62250436
This is the only answer. this question needs
– Richard U
yesterday
I'd just take the letter out of the bin once the lawyer is gone, just in case. They might make some false claims what was in the letter at some point in the future.
– gnasher729
22 hours ago
1
@gnasher729 to which you reply you didn't read it... I've had a couple, didn't read either, neither know nor care what the contents were. A lawyer delivering you a letter doesn't obligate you to read it.
– Kilisi
22 hours ago
add a comment |
is this something which is common?
Not common in terms of generally happens, but it is common for some individuals to make threats whenever things don't go their way.
Best to ignore it, the thing about well known figures that do this sort of thing is that everyone already knows what they're like and will probably think you dodged a bullet rather than anything worse. These sorts of people get a rep for giving one-sided arguments and exaggerating. Most of the time however it's just a threat, it's actually detrimental to them and the company to follow through and action it.
I've had multiple threats over my career from CEO's including letters delivered by lawyers, none of them have amounted to anything. I didn't even bother reading the letters. Just thanked the lawyer for visiting, offered them a cup of tea and chucked the letter in the bin in front of them.
how to react?
Ignore any communications, do not reply, do not acknowledge receipt even. You only react when there is something worth reacting to. Don't get into a dialogue or anything else, that just creates wiggle room and makes it look like it's an actual issue that needs to be addressed. Leave the ball in their court to frustrate themselves with bouncing it off a wall.
answered yesterday
KilisiKilisi
113k62250436
is this something which is common?
Not common in terms of generally happens, but it is common for some individuals to make threats whenever things don't go their way.
Best to ignore it, the thing about well known figures that do this sort of thing is that everyone already knows what they're like and will probably think you dodged a bullet rather than anything worse. These sorts of people get a rep for giving one-sided arguments and exaggerating. Most of the time however it's just a threat, it's actually detrimental to them and the company to follow through and action it.
I've had multiple threats over my career from CEO's including letters delivered by lawyers, none of them have amounted to anything. I didn't even bother reading the letters. Just thanked the lawyer for visiting, offered them a cup of tea and chucked the letter in the bin in front of them.
how to react?
Ignore any communications, do not reply, do not acknowledge receipt even. You only react when there is something worth reacting to. Don't get into a dialogue or anything else, that just creates wiggle room and makes it look like it's an actual issue that needs to be addressed. Leave the ball in their court to frustrate themselves with bouncing it off a wall.
answered yesterday
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KilisiKilisi
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answered yesterday
KilisiKilisi
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answered yesterday
KilisiKilisi
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This is the only answer. this question needs
– Richard U
yesterday
I'd just take the letter out of the bin once the lawyer is gone, just in case. They might make some false claims what was in the letter at some point in the future.
– gnasher729
22 hours ago
1
@gnasher729 to which you reply you didn't read it... I've had a couple, didn't read either, neither know nor care what the contents were. A lawyer delivering you a letter doesn't obligate you to read it.
– Kilisi
22 hours ago
add a comment |
This is the only answer. this question needs
– Richard U
yesterday
I'd just take the letter out of the bin once the lawyer is gone, just in case. They might make some false claims what was in the letter at some point in the future.
– gnasher729
22 hours ago
1
@gnasher729 to which you reply you didn't read it... I've had a couple, didn't read either, neither know nor care what the contents were. A lawyer delivering you a letter doesn't obligate you to read it.
– Kilisi
22 hours ago
This is the only answer. this question needs
– Richard U
yesterday
This is the only answer. this question needs
– Richard U
yesterday
I'd just take the letter out of the bin once the lawyer is gone, just in case. They might make some false claims what was in the letter at some point in the future.
– gnasher729
22 hours ago
I'd just take the letter out of the bin once the lawyer is gone, just in case. They might make some false claims what was in the letter at some point in the future.
– gnasher729
22 hours ago
1
1
@gnasher729 to which you reply you didn't read it... I've had a couple, didn't read either, neither know nor care what the contents were. A lawyer delivering you a letter doesn't obligate you to read it.
– Kilisi
22 hours ago
@gnasher729 to which you reply you didn't read it... I've had a couple, didn't read either, neither know nor care what the contents were. A lawyer delivering you a letter doesn't obligate you to read it.
– Kilisi
22 hours ago
add a comment |
Let the CEO shoot themselves in the foot.
This is an extremely unprofessional threat that the CEO is making, and can have serious legal ramifications to them (depends on jurisdiction and if any personal information is involved). I certainly would not take seriously a CEO who rants like Trump about issues that aren't that big of a deal.
If they do dig their own grave, it'll be up to your friend to decide whether they want to push the CEO in it by releasing their side of the story as a response. Bear in mind that your friend won't really gain anything from this besides possible exposure, the kind of which which won't be career-helpful.
I would certainly recommend talking to a lawyer regarding the legal aspects IF the CEO makes good on their threat.
answered 20 hours ago
520520
1,596213
add a comment |
Let the CEO shoot themselves in the foot.
This is an extremely unprofessional threat that the CEO is making, and can have serious legal ramifications to them (depends on jurisdiction and if any personal information is involved). I certainly would not take seriously a CEO who rants like Trump about issues that aren't that big of a deal.
If they do dig their own grave, it'll be up to your friend to decide whether they want to push the CEO in it by releasing their side of the story as a response. Bear in mind that your friend won't really gain anything from this besides possible exposure, the kind of which which won't be career-helpful.
I would certainly recommend talking to a lawyer regarding the legal aspects IF the CEO makes good on their threat.
answered 20 hours ago
520520
1,596213
add a comment |
Let the CEO shoot themselves in the foot.
This is an extremely unprofessional threat that the CEO is making, and can have serious legal ramifications to them (depends on jurisdiction and if any personal information is involved). I certainly would not take seriously a CEO who rants like Trump about issues that aren't that big of a deal.
If they do dig their own grave, it'll be up to your friend to decide whether they want to push the CEO in it by releasing their side of the story as a response. Bear in mind that your friend won't really gain anything from this besides possible exposure, the kind of which which won't be career-helpful.
I would certainly recommend talking to a lawyer regarding the legal aspects IF the CEO makes good on their threat.
answered 20 hours ago
520520
1,596213
Let the CEO shoot themselves in the foot.
This is an extremely unprofessional threat that the CEO is making, and can have serious legal ramifications to them (depends on jurisdiction and if any personal information is involved). I certainly would not take seriously a CEO who rants like Trump about issues that aren't that big of a deal.
If they do dig their own grave, it'll be up to your friend to decide whether they want to push the CEO in it by releasing their side of the story as a response. Bear in mind that your friend won't really gain anything from this besides possible exposure, the kind of which which won't be career-helpful.
I would certainly recommend talking to a lawyer regarding the legal aspects IF the CEO makes good on their threat.
answered 20 hours ago
520520
1,596213
answered 20 hours ago
520520
1,596213
answered 20 hours ago
520520
1,596213
answered 20 hours ago
520520
1,596213
1,596213
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add a comment |
is this something which is common?
No.
how unprofessional would such a sharing of information be perceived?
Fairly unprofessional (from the CEO), unless there was some egregious misconducted, and even then, it's the wrong way to handle it. It will almost certainly make the CEO look bad
Is it likely that other people take anecdotes told in such a setting
seriously (I would not, since i consider people violating the
confidentiality of the HR process grossly unprofessional)?
People were certainly draw their conclusions, but this will mainly reflect badly on the CEO. Regardless of what happens, going public really makes you look unprofessional and like sore looser. Especially in this case, where there is clearly culpability on the CEO as well.
how to react? (that may include seeking for legal help, but also other
things)
Ignore it. This is more risk to the CEO than it is to the candidate. If any, it'll make him/her more interesting to talk to.
answered 16 hours ago
HilmarHilmar
26.8k66481
add a comment |
is this something which is common?
No.
how unprofessional would such a sharing of information be perceived?
Fairly unprofessional (from the CEO), unless there was some egregious misconducted, and even then, it's the wrong way to handle it. It will almost certainly make the CEO look bad
Is it likely that other people take anecdotes told in such a setting
seriously (I would not, since i consider people violating the
confidentiality of the HR process grossly unprofessional)?
People were certainly draw their conclusions, but this will mainly reflect badly on the CEO. Regardless of what happens, going public really makes you look unprofessional and like sore looser. Especially in this case, where there is clearly culpability on the CEO as well.
how to react? (that may include seeking for legal help, but also other
things)
Ignore it. This is more risk to the CEO than it is to the candidate. If any, it'll make him/her more interesting to talk to.
answered 16 hours ago
HilmarHilmar
26.8k66481
add a comment |
is this something which is common?
No.
how unprofessional would such a sharing of information be perceived?
Fairly unprofessional (from the CEO), unless there was some egregious misconducted, and even then, it's the wrong way to handle it. It will almost certainly make the CEO look bad
Is it likely that other people take anecdotes told in such a setting
seriously (I would not, since i consider people violating the
confidentiality of the HR process grossly unprofessional)?
People were certainly draw their conclusions, but this will mainly reflect badly on the CEO. Regardless of what happens, going public really makes you look unprofessional and like sore looser. Especially in this case, where there is clearly culpability on the CEO as well.
how to react? (that may include seeking for legal help, but also other
things)
Ignore it. This is more risk to the CEO than it is to the candidate. If any, it'll make him/her more interesting to talk to.
answered 16 hours ago
HilmarHilmar
26.8k66481
is this something which is common?
No.
how unprofessional would such a sharing of information be perceived?
Fairly unprofessional (from the CEO), unless there was some egregious misconducted, and even then, it's the wrong way to handle it. It will almost certainly make the CEO look bad
Is it likely that other people take anecdotes told in such a setting
seriously (I would not, since i consider people violating the
confidentiality of the HR process grossly unprofessional)?
People were certainly draw their conclusions, but this will mainly reflect badly on the CEO. Regardless of what happens, going public really makes you look unprofessional and like sore looser. Especially in this case, where there is clearly culpability on the CEO as well.
how to react? (that may include seeking for legal help, but also other
things)
Ignore it. This is more risk to the CEO than it is to the candidate. If any, it'll make him/her more interesting to talk to.
answered 16 hours ago
HilmarHilmar
26.8k66481
answered 16 hours ago
HilmarHilmar
26.8k66481
answered 16 hours ago
HilmarHilmar
26.8k66481
answered 16 hours ago
HilmarHilmar
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"how to react?" - unless your friend did something completely stupid and unprofessional, the best course of action is to ignore it. It's almost certainly just an angry reaction that will amount to nothing. I don't see where this has anything to do with HR, though.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
7
I'm happy for him that he didn't end up taking the job and working for this guy.
– Winks
yesterday
1
@Winks: thats also what I said.....
– Sascha
23 hours ago
1
@JoeStrazzere: it was somewhat unprofessional - canceling on Friday evening before the company planned that they my friend arrives on Monday, but the company actually failed to send a signed offer until that day - but I prsonally think that threatening people with such actions is never professional.
– Sascha
22 hours ago
2
Sounds like the Michael Cohen strategy--a series of bombastic threats followed by...nothing.
– AffableAmbler
16 hours ago