What happens to the shareholder when public company declare bankruptcy?












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If you are a shareholder of a public company and the company goes bankrupt, what would happen to your share?




  1. Does the share still represent your holding in the company? And if the company goes out of business, are you held accountable for the debt that company needs to pay?


  2. If the share does not go to zero, is there a chance that share value will return to original price after bankruptcy?











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    What country are you asking about? Bankruptcy laws and codes vary.

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If you are a shareholder of a public company and the company goes bankrupt, what would happen to your share?




  1. Does the share still represent your holding in the company? And if the company goes out of business, are you held accountable for the debt that company needs to pay?


  2. If the share does not go to zero, is there a chance that share value will return to original price after bankruptcy?











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    What country are you asking about? Bankruptcy laws and codes vary.

    – Chris W. Rea
    6 hours ago
















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If you are a shareholder of a public company and the company goes bankrupt, what would happen to your share?




  1. Does the share still represent your holding in the company? And if the company goes out of business, are you held accountable for the debt that company needs to pay?


  2. If the share does not go to zero, is there a chance that share value will return to original price after bankruptcy?











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If you are a shareholder of a public company and the company goes bankrupt, what would happen to your share?




  1. Does the share still represent your holding in the company? And if the company goes out of business, are you held accountable for the debt that company needs to pay?


  2. If the share does not go to zero, is there a chance that share value will return to original price after bankruptcy?








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    What country are you asking about? Bankruptcy laws and codes vary.

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    What country are you asking about? Bankruptcy laws and codes vary.

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What country are you asking about? Bankruptcy laws and codes vary.

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Under U.S. Bankruptcy Code Chapter 11, the company attempts to reorganize its business and try to become profitable again. Management continues to run the day-to-day business operations but all significant business decisions must be approved by a bankruptcy court.



Under U.S. Bankruptcy Code Chapter 7, the company stops all operations and goes completely out of business. A trustee is appointed to liquidate all assets and the money is used to pay off the debt. Secured creditors are paid first. Owners are last in line to be repaid. Bankruptcy laws determine the order of payment.



As a shareholder, you have no responsibility for company debt.



If the company reorganizes, there's always a chance that share price recovers but that's a long odds bet.






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  • so ultimately the share value goes to 0 if company bankrupts? on chapter 7

    – logger
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    @logger and usually chapter 11. Usually, a company's existing shares do not reemerge from bankruptcy.

    – quid
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  • @logger It's important to note that the shares do not "go away" under a Chapter 11. If you owned 100 shares of Bankruptcy Inc (ticker BKRP) and it files Chapter 11, you still own 100 shares - but they are basically worthless. In fact, the ticker is usually changed to something like BKRP.NWA. In the event the company emerges from Chapter 11 it will likely have newly-issued stock under (say) BKINC, but some people might still try to sell the old BKRP.NWA - and some people might buy it even though it's no longer "attached to" Bankruptcy Inc. Look at GM in 2009 as one example.

    – Istanari
    8 hours ago






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    Another common result of bankruptcy is that the company is acquired by another company. Your shares will usually be converted to shares of the new owner.

    – Barmar
    5 hours ago






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    @Barmar, an answer expanding on the implications of that would be really nice.

    – Wildcard
    4 hours ago



















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You are not liable for the company's additional debts. That is the entire point, the reason the "corporation" was invented. You can't lose more than you willingly invested.



The share is a share of the company's net worth (assets minus liabilities, and its net earnings over time). In a bankruptcy situation, it is expected that the net worth is less than zero. Only a turn of luck would cause otherwise.



As far as paying the company's debts, a shareholder is considered a creditor, but a very low priority creditor. Everyone else with secured or unsecured debt or obligations gets paid first. There is unlikely to be any left over when it becomes your turn.






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  • It's the reason the limited liability corporation was invented. There are other types, but they're not as popular, for obvious reasons.

    – Rupert Morrish
    1 hour ago



















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In a company re-organization the company stock is usually wiped-out.



Then the senior debt holders, in addition to current business creditors, likely or often become the new stockholders.



And so as a company gets into trouble, the senior debt holders can short the stock while holding the debt. The gain on the short stock can be much larger than the loss on the senior debt because the senior debt does have significant value in a the re-organization.






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  • This doesn't really address the question. Any potential trades for the debtors also carry their own risks for the debtors, and don't directly affect what happens to OPs shares.

    – SafeFastExpressive
    3 hours ago











  • There's nothing about owning senior debt that gives the owner of that debt any opportunity to short the stock that everyone else doesn't have. In fact, if being a senior creditor somehow gives them knowledge of the company's trouble earlier than the public gets it, then it would almost universally be insider trading (a criminal offense) to short the stock based on that knowledge.

    – Henning Makholm
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  • The bankruptcy court, in a substantial re-organization, has a legal obligation to settle with the senior debt holders and that is a major factor on the value of the company left to the stockholders. The senior debt holders are just additionally inclined to short the stock because the bonds are less liquid but have a value if held into a re-organization.

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Bob Baerker outlined the two major forms of bankruptcy in the US.



In addition, when a company reorganizes under Chapter 11, a common strategy is to look for another company to acquire the assets of the business. Sometimes this company will acquire the bankrupt company as a whole -- it will typically become a division of the new parent company.



As far as the shareholders are concerned, this is similar to any other merger or acquisition, except the bankruptcy court mediates it, rather than allowing shareholders to vote on it. If the new parent company is a public company, the shareholders of the original company will have their shares converted to the new company; the conversion rate will be pro-rated based on the estimated fair market value of the two companies (I assume this is done by the bankruptcy court). If it's not public, the new parent company will purchase their shares from them (again, I presume the bankruptcy court sets the price).



Sometimes the new company doesn't acquire the business as a whole, but instead the company is broken up and some divisions are sold, while the original company continues to operate with the remaining divisions. When the remaining compoany emerges from bankruptcy, the shareholders will see the value of their shares drop based on the estimated value of the remaining business, and they'll receive either cash or shares of the new parent(s) for the divisions that are sold off.



I've worked for companies that have gone through both types of bankruptcies, although the one that was split up was a startup that hadn't yet gone public. In that case, some of my compensation was in incentive stock options, but they became worthless since we never went public.



Often the selloff strategy is attempted as a way to forestall bankruptcy. The reason the company is struggling is because it's trying to do too many things at once; selling some divisions to a company that it fits into better can allow the remaining company to be more manageable, and avoid having to declare bankruptcy. Once you declare bankruptcy, many decisions are forced upon the company by the court.






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    Under U.S. Bankruptcy Code Chapter 11, the company attempts to reorganize its business and try to become profitable again. Management continues to run the day-to-day business operations but all significant business decisions must be approved by a bankruptcy court.



    Under U.S. Bankruptcy Code Chapter 7, the company stops all operations and goes completely out of business. A trustee is appointed to liquidate all assets and the money is used to pay off the debt. Secured creditors are paid first. Owners are last in line to be repaid. Bankruptcy laws determine the order of payment.



    As a shareholder, you have no responsibility for company debt.



    If the company reorganizes, there's always a chance that share price recovers but that's a long odds bet.






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    • so ultimately the share value goes to 0 if company bankrupts? on chapter 7

      – logger
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      @logger and usually chapter 11. Usually, a company's existing shares do not reemerge from bankruptcy.

      – quid
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    • @logger It's important to note that the shares do not "go away" under a Chapter 11. If you owned 100 shares of Bankruptcy Inc (ticker BKRP) and it files Chapter 11, you still own 100 shares - but they are basically worthless. In fact, the ticker is usually changed to something like BKRP.NWA. In the event the company emerges from Chapter 11 it will likely have newly-issued stock under (say) BKINC, but some people might still try to sell the old BKRP.NWA - and some people might buy it even though it's no longer "attached to" Bankruptcy Inc. Look at GM in 2009 as one example.

      – Istanari
      8 hours ago






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      Another common result of bankruptcy is that the company is acquired by another company. Your shares will usually be converted to shares of the new owner.

      – Barmar
      5 hours ago






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      @Barmar, an answer expanding on the implications of that would be really nice.

      – Wildcard
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    Under U.S. Bankruptcy Code Chapter 11, the company attempts to reorganize its business and try to become profitable again. Management continues to run the day-to-day business operations but all significant business decisions must be approved by a bankruptcy court.



    Under U.S. Bankruptcy Code Chapter 7, the company stops all operations and goes completely out of business. A trustee is appointed to liquidate all assets and the money is used to pay off the debt. Secured creditors are paid first. Owners are last in line to be repaid. Bankruptcy laws determine the order of payment.



    As a shareholder, you have no responsibility for company debt.



    If the company reorganizes, there's always a chance that share price recovers but that's a long odds bet.






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    • so ultimately the share value goes to 0 if company bankrupts? on chapter 7

      – logger
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      @logger and usually chapter 11. Usually, a company's existing shares do not reemerge from bankruptcy.

      – quid
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    • @logger It's important to note that the shares do not "go away" under a Chapter 11. If you owned 100 shares of Bankruptcy Inc (ticker BKRP) and it files Chapter 11, you still own 100 shares - but they are basically worthless. In fact, the ticker is usually changed to something like BKRP.NWA. In the event the company emerges from Chapter 11 it will likely have newly-issued stock under (say) BKINC, but some people might still try to sell the old BKRP.NWA - and some people might buy it even though it's no longer "attached to" Bankruptcy Inc. Look at GM in 2009 as one example.

      – Istanari
      8 hours ago






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      Another common result of bankruptcy is that the company is acquired by another company. Your shares will usually be converted to shares of the new owner.

      – Barmar
      5 hours ago






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      @Barmar, an answer expanding on the implications of that would be really nice.

      – Wildcard
      4 hours ago














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    Under U.S. Bankruptcy Code Chapter 11, the company attempts to reorganize its business and try to become profitable again. Management continues to run the day-to-day business operations but all significant business decisions must be approved by a bankruptcy court.



    Under U.S. Bankruptcy Code Chapter 7, the company stops all operations and goes completely out of business. A trustee is appointed to liquidate all assets and the money is used to pay off the debt. Secured creditors are paid first. Owners are last in line to be repaid. Bankruptcy laws determine the order of payment.



    As a shareholder, you have no responsibility for company debt.



    If the company reorganizes, there's always a chance that share price recovers but that's a long odds bet.






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    Under U.S. Bankruptcy Code Chapter 11, the company attempts to reorganize its business and try to become profitable again. Management continues to run the day-to-day business operations but all significant business decisions must be approved by a bankruptcy court.



    Under U.S. Bankruptcy Code Chapter 7, the company stops all operations and goes completely out of business. A trustee is appointed to liquidate all assets and the money is used to pay off the debt. Secured creditors are paid first. Owners are last in line to be repaid. Bankruptcy laws determine the order of payment.



    As a shareholder, you have no responsibility for company debt.



    If the company reorganizes, there's always a chance that share price recovers but that's a long odds bet.







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    • so ultimately the share value goes to 0 if company bankrupts? on chapter 7

      – logger
      9 hours ago






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      @logger and usually chapter 11. Usually, a company's existing shares do not reemerge from bankruptcy.

      – quid
      9 hours ago











    • @logger It's important to note that the shares do not "go away" under a Chapter 11. If you owned 100 shares of Bankruptcy Inc (ticker BKRP) and it files Chapter 11, you still own 100 shares - but they are basically worthless. In fact, the ticker is usually changed to something like BKRP.NWA. In the event the company emerges from Chapter 11 it will likely have newly-issued stock under (say) BKINC, but some people might still try to sell the old BKRP.NWA - and some people might buy it even though it's no longer "attached to" Bankruptcy Inc. Look at GM in 2009 as one example.

      – Istanari
      8 hours ago






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      Another common result of bankruptcy is that the company is acquired by another company. Your shares will usually be converted to shares of the new owner.

      – Barmar
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      @Barmar, an answer expanding on the implications of that would be really nice.

      – Wildcard
      4 hours ago



















    • so ultimately the share value goes to 0 if company bankrupts? on chapter 7

      – logger
      9 hours ago






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      @logger and usually chapter 11. Usually, a company's existing shares do not reemerge from bankruptcy.

      – quid
      9 hours ago











    • @logger It's important to note that the shares do not "go away" under a Chapter 11. If you owned 100 shares of Bankruptcy Inc (ticker BKRP) and it files Chapter 11, you still own 100 shares - but they are basically worthless. In fact, the ticker is usually changed to something like BKRP.NWA. In the event the company emerges from Chapter 11 it will likely have newly-issued stock under (say) BKINC, but some people might still try to sell the old BKRP.NWA - and some people might buy it even though it's no longer "attached to" Bankruptcy Inc. Look at GM in 2009 as one example.

      – Istanari
      8 hours ago






    • 1





      Another common result of bankruptcy is that the company is acquired by another company. Your shares will usually be converted to shares of the new owner.

      – Barmar
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      @Barmar, an answer expanding on the implications of that would be really nice.

      – Wildcard
      4 hours ago

















    so ultimately the share value goes to 0 if company bankrupts? on chapter 7

    – logger
    9 hours ago





    so ultimately the share value goes to 0 if company bankrupts? on chapter 7

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    @logger and usually chapter 11. Usually, a company's existing shares do not reemerge from bankruptcy.

    – quid
    9 hours ago





    @logger and usually chapter 11. Usually, a company's existing shares do not reemerge from bankruptcy.

    – quid
    9 hours ago













    @logger It's important to note that the shares do not "go away" under a Chapter 11. If you owned 100 shares of Bankruptcy Inc (ticker BKRP) and it files Chapter 11, you still own 100 shares - but they are basically worthless. In fact, the ticker is usually changed to something like BKRP.NWA. In the event the company emerges from Chapter 11 it will likely have newly-issued stock under (say) BKINC, but some people might still try to sell the old BKRP.NWA - and some people might buy it even though it's no longer "attached to" Bankruptcy Inc. Look at GM in 2009 as one example.

    – Istanari
    8 hours ago





    @logger It's important to note that the shares do not "go away" under a Chapter 11. If you owned 100 shares of Bankruptcy Inc (ticker BKRP) and it files Chapter 11, you still own 100 shares - but they are basically worthless. In fact, the ticker is usually changed to something like BKRP.NWA. In the event the company emerges from Chapter 11 it will likely have newly-issued stock under (say) BKINC, but some people might still try to sell the old BKRP.NWA - and some people might buy it even though it's no longer "attached to" Bankruptcy Inc. Look at GM in 2009 as one example.

    – Istanari
    8 hours ago




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    Another common result of bankruptcy is that the company is acquired by another company. Your shares will usually be converted to shares of the new owner.

    – Barmar
    5 hours ago





    Another common result of bankruptcy is that the company is acquired by another company. Your shares will usually be converted to shares of the new owner.

    – Barmar
    5 hours ago




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    @Barmar, an answer expanding on the implications of that would be really nice.

    – Wildcard
    4 hours ago





    @Barmar, an answer expanding on the implications of that would be really nice.

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    You are not liable for the company's additional debts. That is the entire point, the reason the "corporation" was invented. You can't lose more than you willingly invested.



    The share is a share of the company's net worth (assets minus liabilities, and its net earnings over time). In a bankruptcy situation, it is expected that the net worth is less than zero. Only a turn of luck would cause otherwise.



    As far as paying the company's debts, a shareholder is considered a creditor, but a very low priority creditor. Everyone else with secured or unsecured debt or obligations gets paid first. There is unlikely to be any left over when it becomes your turn.






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    • It's the reason the limited liability corporation was invented. There are other types, but they're not as popular, for obvious reasons.

      – Rupert Morrish
      1 hour ago
















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    You are not liable for the company's additional debts. That is the entire point, the reason the "corporation" was invented. You can't lose more than you willingly invested.



    The share is a share of the company's net worth (assets minus liabilities, and its net earnings over time). In a bankruptcy situation, it is expected that the net worth is less than zero. Only a turn of luck would cause otherwise.



    As far as paying the company's debts, a shareholder is considered a creditor, but a very low priority creditor. Everyone else with secured or unsecured debt or obligations gets paid first. There is unlikely to be any left over when it becomes your turn.






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    • It's the reason the limited liability corporation was invented. There are other types, but they're not as popular, for obvious reasons.

      – Rupert Morrish
      1 hour ago














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    You are not liable for the company's additional debts. That is the entire point, the reason the "corporation" was invented. You can't lose more than you willingly invested.



    The share is a share of the company's net worth (assets minus liabilities, and its net earnings over time). In a bankruptcy situation, it is expected that the net worth is less than zero. Only a turn of luck would cause otherwise.



    As far as paying the company's debts, a shareholder is considered a creditor, but a very low priority creditor. Everyone else with secured or unsecured debt or obligations gets paid first. There is unlikely to be any left over when it becomes your turn.






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    You are not liable for the company's additional debts. That is the entire point, the reason the "corporation" was invented. You can't lose more than you willingly invested.



    The share is a share of the company's net worth (assets minus liabilities, and its net earnings over time). In a bankruptcy situation, it is expected that the net worth is less than zero. Only a turn of luck would cause otherwise.



    As far as paying the company's debts, a shareholder is considered a creditor, but a very low priority creditor. Everyone else with secured or unsecured debt or obligations gets paid first. There is unlikely to be any left over when it becomes your turn.







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    • It's the reason the limited liability corporation was invented. There are other types, but they're not as popular, for obvious reasons.

      – Rupert Morrish
      1 hour ago



















    • It's the reason the limited liability corporation was invented. There are other types, but they're not as popular, for obvious reasons.

      – Rupert Morrish
      1 hour ago

















    It's the reason the limited liability corporation was invented. There are other types, but they're not as popular, for obvious reasons.

    – Rupert Morrish
    1 hour ago





    It's the reason the limited liability corporation was invented. There are other types, but they're not as popular, for obvious reasons.

    – Rupert Morrish
    1 hour ago











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    In a company re-organization the company stock is usually wiped-out.



    Then the senior debt holders, in addition to current business creditors, likely or often become the new stockholders.



    And so as a company gets into trouble, the senior debt holders can short the stock while holding the debt. The gain on the short stock can be much larger than the loss on the senior debt because the senior debt does have significant value in a the re-organization.






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    • This doesn't really address the question. Any potential trades for the debtors also carry their own risks for the debtors, and don't directly affect what happens to OPs shares.

      – SafeFastExpressive
      3 hours ago











    • There's nothing about owning senior debt that gives the owner of that debt any opportunity to short the stock that everyone else doesn't have. In fact, if being a senior creditor somehow gives them knowledge of the company's trouble earlier than the public gets it, then it would almost universally be insider trading (a criminal offense) to short the stock based on that knowledge.

      – Henning Makholm
      1 hour ago











    • The bankruptcy court, in a substantial re-organization, has a legal obligation to settle with the senior debt holders and that is a major factor on the value of the company left to the stockholders. The senior debt holders are just additionally inclined to short the stock because the bonds are less liquid but have a value if held into a re-organization.

      – S Spring
      54 mins ago


















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    In a company re-organization the company stock is usually wiped-out.



    Then the senior debt holders, in addition to current business creditors, likely or often become the new stockholders.



    And so as a company gets into trouble, the senior debt holders can short the stock while holding the debt. The gain on the short stock can be much larger than the loss on the senior debt because the senior debt does have significant value in a the re-organization.






    share|improve this answer


























    • This doesn't really address the question. Any potential trades for the debtors also carry their own risks for the debtors, and don't directly affect what happens to OPs shares.

      – SafeFastExpressive
      3 hours ago











    • There's nothing about owning senior debt that gives the owner of that debt any opportunity to short the stock that everyone else doesn't have. In fact, if being a senior creditor somehow gives them knowledge of the company's trouble earlier than the public gets it, then it would almost universally be insider trading (a criminal offense) to short the stock based on that knowledge.

      – Henning Makholm
      1 hour ago











    • The bankruptcy court, in a substantial re-organization, has a legal obligation to settle with the senior debt holders and that is a major factor on the value of the company left to the stockholders. The senior debt holders are just additionally inclined to short the stock because the bonds are less liquid but have a value if held into a re-organization.

      – S Spring
      54 mins ago
















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    In a company re-organization the company stock is usually wiped-out.



    Then the senior debt holders, in addition to current business creditors, likely or often become the new stockholders.



    And so as a company gets into trouble, the senior debt holders can short the stock while holding the debt. The gain on the short stock can be much larger than the loss on the senior debt because the senior debt does have significant value in a the re-organization.






    share|improve this answer















    In a company re-organization the company stock is usually wiped-out.



    Then the senior debt holders, in addition to current business creditors, likely or often become the new stockholders.



    And so as a company gets into trouble, the senior debt holders can short the stock while holding the debt. The gain on the short stock can be much larger than the loss on the senior debt because the senior debt does have significant value in a the re-organization.







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    • This doesn't really address the question. Any potential trades for the debtors also carry their own risks for the debtors, and don't directly affect what happens to OPs shares.

      – SafeFastExpressive
      3 hours ago











    • There's nothing about owning senior debt that gives the owner of that debt any opportunity to short the stock that everyone else doesn't have. In fact, if being a senior creditor somehow gives them knowledge of the company's trouble earlier than the public gets it, then it would almost universally be insider trading (a criminal offense) to short the stock based on that knowledge.

      – Henning Makholm
      1 hour ago











    • The bankruptcy court, in a substantial re-organization, has a legal obligation to settle with the senior debt holders and that is a major factor on the value of the company left to the stockholders. The senior debt holders are just additionally inclined to short the stock because the bonds are less liquid but have a value if held into a re-organization.

      – S Spring
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    • This doesn't really address the question. Any potential trades for the debtors also carry their own risks for the debtors, and don't directly affect what happens to OPs shares.

      – SafeFastExpressive
      3 hours ago











    • There's nothing about owning senior debt that gives the owner of that debt any opportunity to short the stock that everyone else doesn't have. In fact, if being a senior creditor somehow gives them knowledge of the company's trouble earlier than the public gets it, then it would almost universally be insider trading (a criminal offense) to short the stock based on that knowledge.

      – Henning Makholm
      1 hour ago











    • The bankruptcy court, in a substantial re-organization, has a legal obligation to settle with the senior debt holders and that is a major factor on the value of the company left to the stockholders. The senior debt holders are just additionally inclined to short the stock because the bonds are less liquid but have a value if held into a re-organization.

      – S Spring
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    This doesn't really address the question. Any potential trades for the debtors also carry their own risks for the debtors, and don't directly affect what happens to OPs shares.

    – SafeFastExpressive
    3 hours ago





    This doesn't really address the question. Any potential trades for the debtors also carry their own risks for the debtors, and don't directly affect what happens to OPs shares.

    – SafeFastExpressive
    3 hours ago













    There's nothing about owning senior debt that gives the owner of that debt any opportunity to short the stock that everyone else doesn't have. In fact, if being a senior creditor somehow gives them knowledge of the company's trouble earlier than the public gets it, then it would almost universally be insider trading (a criminal offense) to short the stock based on that knowledge.

    – Henning Makholm
    1 hour ago





    There's nothing about owning senior debt that gives the owner of that debt any opportunity to short the stock that everyone else doesn't have. In fact, if being a senior creditor somehow gives them knowledge of the company's trouble earlier than the public gets it, then it would almost universally be insider trading (a criminal offense) to short the stock based on that knowledge.

    – Henning Makholm
    1 hour ago













    The bankruptcy court, in a substantial re-organization, has a legal obligation to settle with the senior debt holders and that is a major factor on the value of the company left to the stockholders. The senior debt holders are just additionally inclined to short the stock because the bonds are less liquid but have a value if held into a re-organization.

    – S Spring
    54 mins ago







    The bankruptcy court, in a substantial re-organization, has a legal obligation to settle with the senior debt holders and that is a major factor on the value of the company left to the stockholders. The senior debt holders are just additionally inclined to short the stock because the bonds are less liquid but have a value if held into a re-organization.

    – S Spring
    54 mins ago













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    Bob Baerker outlined the two major forms of bankruptcy in the US.



    In addition, when a company reorganizes under Chapter 11, a common strategy is to look for another company to acquire the assets of the business. Sometimes this company will acquire the bankrupt company as a whole -- it will typically become a division of the new parent company.



    As far as the shareholders are concerned, this is similar to any other merger or acquisition, except the bankruptcy court mediates it, rather than allowing shareholders to vote on it. If the new parent company is a public company, the shareholders of the original company will have their shares converted to the new company; the conversion rate will be pro-rated based on the estimated fair market value of the two companies (I assume this is done by the bankruptcy court). If it's not public, the new parent company will purchase their shares from them (again, I presume the bankruptcy court sets the price).



    Sometimes the new company doesn't acquire the business as a whole, but instead the company is broken up and some divisions are sold, while the original company continues to operate with the remaining divisions. When the remaining compoany emerges from bankruptcy, the shareholders will see the value of their shares drop based on the estimated value of the remaining business, and they'll receive either cash or shares of the new parent(s) for the divisions that are sold off.



    I've worked for companies that have gone through both types of bankruptcies, although the one that was split up was a startup that hadn't yet gone public. In that case, some of my compensation was in incentive stock options, but they became worthless since we never went public.



    Often the selloff strategy is attempted as a way to forestall bankruptcy. The reason the company is struggling is because it's trying to do too many things at once; selling some divisions to a company that it fits into better can allow the remaining company to be more manageable, and avoid having to declare bankruptcy. Once you declare bankruptcy, many decisions are forced upon the company by the court.






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      Bob Baerker outlined the two major forms of bankruptcy in the US.



      In addition, when a company reorganizes under Chapter 11, a common strategy is to look for another company to acquire the assets of the business. Sometimes this company will acquire the bankrupt company as a whole -- it will typically become a division of the new parent company.



      As far as the shareholders are concerned, this is similar to any other merger or acquisition, except the bankruptcy court mediates it, rather than allowing shareholders to vote on it. If the new parent company is a public company, the shareholders of the original company will have their shares converted to the new company; the conversion rate will be pro-rated based on the estimated fair market value of the two companies (I assume this is done by the bankruptcy court). If it's not public, the new parent company will purchase their shares from them (again, I presume the bankruptcy court sets the price).



      Sometimes the new company doesn't acquire the business as a whole, but instead the company is broken up and some divisions are sold, while the original company continues to operate with the remaining divisions. When the remaining compoany emerges from bankruptcy, the shareholders will see the value of their shares drop based on the estimated value of the remaining business, and they'll receive either cash or shares of the new parent(s) for the divisions that are sold off.



      I've worked for companies that have gone through both types of bankruptcies, although the one that was split up was a startup that hadn't yet gone public. In that case, some of my compensation was in incentive stock options, but they became worthless since we never went public.



      Often the selloff strategy is attempted as a way to forestall bankruptcy. The reason the company is struggling is because it's trying to do too many things at once; selling some divisions to a company that it fits into better can allow the remaining company to be more manageable, and avoid having to declare bankruptcy. Once you declare bankruptcy, many decisions are forced upon the company by the court.






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        Bob Baerker outlined the two major forms of bankruptcy in the US.



        In addition, when a company reorganizes under Chapter 11, a common strategy is to look for another company to acquire the assets of the business. Sometimes this company will acquire the bankrupt company as a whole -- it will typically become a division of the new parent company.



        As far as the shareholders are concerned, this is similar to any other merger or acquisition, except the bankruptcy court mediates it, rather than allowing shareholders to vote on it. If the new parent company is a public company, the shareholders of the original company will have their shares converted to the new company; the conversion rate will be pro-rated based on the estimated fair market value of the two companies (I assume this is done by the bankruptcy court). If it's not public, the new parent company will purchase their shares from them (again, I presume the bankruptcy court sets the price).



        Sometimes the new company doesn't acquire the business as a whole, but instead the company is broken up and some divisions are sold, while the original company continues to operate with the remaining divisions. When the remaining compoany emerges from bankruptcy, the shareholders will see the value of their shares drop based on the estimated value of the remaining business, and they'll receive either cash or shares of the new parent(s) for the divisions that are sold off.



        I've worked for companies that have gone through both types of bankruptcies, although the one that was split up was a startup that hadn't yet gone public. In that case, some of my compensation was in incentive stock options, but they became worthless since we never went public.



        Often the selloff strategy is attempted as a way to forestall bankruptcy. The reason the company is struggling is because it's trying to do too many things at once; selling some divisions to a company that it fits into better can allow the remaining company to be more manageable, and avoid having to declare bankruptcy. Once you declare bankruptcy, many decisions are forced upon the company by the court.






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        Bob Baerker outlined the two major forms of bankruptcy in the US.



        In addition, when a company reorganizes under Chapter 11, a common strategy is to look for another company to acquire the assets of the business. Sometimes this company will acquire the bankrupt company as a whole -- it will typically become a division of the new parent company.



        As far as the shareholders are concerned, this is similar to any other merger or acquisition, except the bankruptcy court mediates it, rather than allowing shareholders to vote on it. If the new parent company is a public company, the shareholders of the original company will have their shares converted to the new company; the conversion rate will be pro-rated based on the estimated fair market value of the two companies (I assume this is done by the bankruptcy court). If it's not public, the new parent company will purchase their shares from them (again, I presume the bankruptcy court sets the price).



        Sometimes the new company doesn't acquire the business as a whole, but instead the company is broken up and some divisions are sold, while the original company continues to operate with the remaining divisions. When the remaining compoany emerges from bankruptcy, the shareholders will see the value of their shares drop based on the estimated value of the remaining business, and they'll receive either cash or shares of the new parent(s) for the divisions that are sold off.



        I've worked for companies that have gone through both types of bankruptcies, although the one that was split up was a startup that hadn't yet gone public. In that case, some of my compensation was in incentive stock options, but they became worthless since we never went public.



        Often the selloff strategy is attempted as a way to forestall bankruptcy. The reason the company is struggling is because it's trying to do too many things at once; selling some divisions to a company that it fits into better can allow the remaining company to be more manageable, and avoid having to declare bankruptcy. Once you declare bankruptcy, many decisions are forced upon the company by the court.







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