Is it appropriate to slightly change the name of my degree?
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If I have a "BS in Software Development", would it be okay to change the name to "BS in Software Engineering" on my resume?
Could it negatively impact background checks or education verification if it is not 100% identical?
Although both terms almost mean the same thing and are often used interchangeably, "software engineering" sounds a bit more rigorous, and I prefer it more. The jobs I will be applying to will also have the "Software Engineer" job title.
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If I have a "BS in Software Development", would it be okay to change the name to "BS in Software Engineering" on my resume?
Could it negatively impact background checks or education verification if it is not 100% identical?
Although both terms almost mean the same thing and are often used interchangeably, "software engineering" sounds a bit more rigorous, and I prefer it more. The jobs I will be applying to will also have the "Software Engineer" job title.
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consider achieving your intent through a more secure path: enroll yourself in some post-grad specialization that gives you the title you are looking for. This way, not only you will have what you want but also a higher degree. It may take one or two years, but it is nonetheless a more secure option. I had a similar problem myself and that was how I solved it.
– Quaestor Lucem
yesterday
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Some areas it is illegal to call yourself an engineer when you are not. DO NOT DO THIS!
– Nelson
yesterday
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I understand why you would want to inflate in your head the name of your degree. Near me there was 2 universities withBSc Computer ScienceandBSc Computing Science. I would much rather have Computer Science on my resume; but at the end of the day, list your modules as any hiring manager or Software Engineer will know the degrees are identical apart from the name.
– Dean Meehan
yesterday
1
the two things are very different, so, no
– Fattie
yesterday
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If I have a "BS in Software Development", would it be okay to change the name to "BS in Software Engineering" on my resume?
Could it negatively impact background checks or education verification if it is not 100% identical?
Although both terms almost mean the same thing and are often used interchangeably, "software engineering" sounds a bit more rigorous, and I prefer it more. The jobs I will be applying to will also have the "Software Engineer" job title.
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If I have a "BS in Software Development", would it be okay to change the name to "BS in Software Engineering" on my resume?
Could it negatively impact background checks or education verification if it is not 100% identical?
Although both terms almost mean the same thing and are often used interchangeably, "software engineering" sounds a bit more rigorous, and I prefer it more. The jobs I will be applying to will also have the "Software Engineer" job title.
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consider achieving your intent through a more secure path: enroll yourself in some post-grad specialization that gives you the title you are looking for. This way, not only you will have what you want but also a higher degree. It may take one or two years, but it is nonetheless a more secure option. I had a similar problem myself and that was how I solved it.
– Quaestor Lucem
yesterday
8
Some areas it is illegal to call yourself an engineer when you are not. DO NOT DO THIS!
– Nelson
yesterday
1
I understand why you would want to inflate in your head the name of your degree. Near me there was 2 universities withBSc Computer ScienceandBSc Computing Science. I would much rather have Computer Science on my resume; but at the end of the day, list your modules as any hiring manager or Software Engineer will know the degrees are identical apart from the name.
– Dean Meehan
yesterday
1
the two things are very different, so, no
– Fattie
yesterday
add a comment |
consider achieving your intent through a more secure path: enroll yourself in some post-grad specialization that gives you the title you are looking for. This way, not only you will have what you want but also a higher degree. It may take one or two years, but it is nonetheless a more secure option. I had a similar problem myself and that was how I solved it.
– Quaestor Lucem
yesterday
8
Some areas it is illegal to call yourself an engineer when you are not. DO NOT DO THIS!
– Nelson
yesterday
1
I understand why you would want to inflate in your head the name of your degree. Near me there was 2 universities withBSc Computer ScienceandBSc Computing Science. I would much rather have Computer Science on my resume; but at the end of the day, list your modules as any hiring manager or Software Engineer will know the degrees are identical apart from the name.
– Dean Meehan
yesterday
1
the two things are very different, so, no
– Fattie
yesterday
consider achieving your intent through a more secure path: enroll yourself in some post-grad specialization that gives you the title you are looking for. This way, not only you will have what you want but also a higher degree. It may take one or two years, but it is nonetheless a more secure option. I had a similar problem myself and that was how I solved it.
– Quaestor Lucem
yesterday
consider achieving your intent through a more secure path: enroll yourself in some post-grad specialization that gives you the title you are looking for. This way, not only you will have what you want but also a higher degree. It may take one or two years, but it is nonetheless a more secure option. I had a similar problem myself and that was how I solved it.
– Quaestor Lucem
yesterday
8
8
Some areas it is illegal to call yourself an engineer when you are not. DO NOT DO THIS!
– Nelson
yesterday
Some areas it is illegal to call yourself an engineer when you are not. DO NOT DO THIS!
– Nelson
yesterday
1
1
I understand why you would want to inflate in your head the name of your degree. Near me there was 2 universities with
BSc Computer Science and BSc Computing Science. I would much rather have Computer Science on my resume; but at the end of the day, list your modules as any hiring manager or Software Engineer will know the degrees are identical apart from the name.– Dean Meehan
yesterday
I understand why you would want to inflate in your head the name of your degree. Near me there was 2 universities with
BSc Computer Science and BSc Computing Science. I would much rather have Computer Science on my resume; but at the end of the day, list your modules as any hiring manager or Software Engineer will know the degrees are identical apart from the name.– Dean Meehan
yesterday
1
1
the two things are very different, so, no
– Fattie
yesterday
the two things are very different, so, no
– Fattie
yesterday
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If your diploma is in the same language as your resume is, then whatever it calls the degree is what you put on your resume. If you were translating (because you're applying in a market where employers don't understand the language of your diploma) there would be some wiggle room, but not otherwise.
I don't think many employers would care one whit whether the school you went to happens to call their program one or the other. But if you call the degree something it isn't because you think that makes you sound better qualified than the truth would, then for that reason alone what you're doing is an attempt to deceive. And employers certainly do care about whether your application is deceptive.
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Henning MakholmHenning Makholm
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Alterations can also screw you over if they contact the university and ask if you have a specific degree, especially if they have a different degree with the altered name. The only time I think it would be acceptable is if the university itself had changed the name. My games programming degree was originally a bachelor of design, but was changed in later years to IT when the uni realised what a mistake the former was - in this case, I feel comfortable putting Bachelor of Design (now I.T.): Games Programming on my CV.
– Xono
yesterday
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There is a huge difference between an degree in software development and software engineering...
– Ramhound
yesterday
add a comment |
As the term can't be used interchangeably it can only impact you negatively.
I would not recommend you to do that.
In France, the Engineering diploma can only be delivered by accredited institutions.
Words have meanings, and a simple alteration may be greater than what you think.
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No, they cannot be used interchangeably (maybe you used the word mistakenly?). Software Development and Engineering are usually two quite different disciplines; in short, one is typically considered "closer to metal" than the other which is expected to require also a lot of organisational abilities. Changing the title means pretending to have a degree in a topic which you have not a degree in. I agree with the rest of the response.
– Captain Emacs
yesterday
1
@CaptainEmacs Given what the rest of the answer says, I think your aside is correct and it was just a typo.
– BSMP
yesterday
@CaptainEmacs Just to nitpick a bit, as Bougret pointed out, in some countries, Engineer is a title, delivered by accredited institutions. It means you went through competitive exams to get in the school and it's generally considered harder (though not "closer to the metal"), giving it a "higher value" than same level university degree (speaking as a French Engineer here). Furthermore, it's (as pointed earlier) a title (as much as Doctor), so 1) engineers might take it poorly and 2) it's illegal, and can get you in trouble. (Once again, depends on the country OP is in)
– Nyakouai
yesterday
@BSMP Yeah, I got that one. I think the response was fixed. My comment can probably go. Yes, I also realise that Engineer is a special title in France.
– Captain Emacs
yesterday
1
guys, no need for so much discussion about a typo. when you see a typo just (a) click to fix it or (b) the only comment one need make is "is that a typo?" or "looks like a typo". heh!
– Fattie
yesterday
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You should definitely use the exact name of the degree. That ensures that nobody can feel misled, and reduces the risk of verification problems.
If your particular "BS in Software Development" was more rigorous than normal, and you are early enough in your career for degree details to matter, you could supplement by listing some of the subjects you studied, and projects you completed.
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Patricia ShanahanPatricia Shanahan
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Fact: You don't have a BS in Software Engineering. If you claim it on your CV, you are lying. If you lie on your CV, that can have dire consequences years later. Say you stayed with the company for ten years, risen up in the ranks, and for some reason the company decides to get rid of you. If they find you lied on your CV, you are gone.
The fact that you have a BS in Software Development doesn't change this one bit.
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gnasher729gnasher729
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It may strongly depend on what country you are submitting the resume in. The Association of Engineers and Geoscientists in Canada regulates the usage of the term "Engineer" in both education and professional capacities. You could find yourself at risk of misrepresenting yourself as an Engineer (or eligible for status as a Professional Engineer or P.Eng.), which carries weight.
In some immigration contexts, a mismatch in degree may render you ineligible for visa status (think Japan).
I suggest that you play it safe and only use language that you can prove (provide it as written on your degree).
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MalisbadMalisbad
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The best way to check yourself, whether you can do that "slight modification" in your resume is to try to use the modified degree name and check it against your college / university whether they can produce any result against that query.
In case they return a result with successful candidate and degree certificate, you are probably OK to use the altered nomenclature.
However, if it fails to return any result, that means, your university does not recognize the altered name and you would be seen as lying in your resume.
Although both terms almost mean the same thing and are often used interchangeably,[..]
That's your perception (assumption), it may not be true globally. Do you want to end up being seen as lying? No.
TL;DR - When in doubt, go by what is documented and can be proved if required.
FootNote:
However, many job opportunities mention that you need to have a certain degree or equivalent. Given that the prescribed degree is similar to what you have, you are free to apply but make sure your resume mentions the degree in a way that can be supported with relevant documents (grade sheet, certificates etc.). Whether the organization considers your degree to be eligible, is up to them. At least, you wont be seen as lying.
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Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
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Hm, interesting, comments for DV, anyone?
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Yes, it's your own resume. You're free to do whatever you want on your own document. "Development", "Computer Science", "Software Engineering", "Programming", "Coding", "Computer Engineering" have the same meaning in English.
They are synonyms.
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SmallChessSmallChess
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Computer science is not interchangeable with the rest of those, as it focuses more on algorithmic theory than creating and debugging software.
– forest
yesterday
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Agree with @forrest, "software engineering" is definitely not interchangeable with "computer science". I have never programmed a Turing machine but I understand how one works for the purposes of complexity theory. Also if we are talking about an academic degree than academic questions are relevant.
– missimer
yesterday
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Unfortunately, I have to disagree with your recent edit as well. Computer engineering is a merging of electrical engineering and computer science. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_engineering.
– forest
yesterday
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No it is not. Computer engineering is about designing circuits on the physical level. Computer engineers care about the speed of electricity and capacitance. They talk about sapphire substrate and asynchronicity. The closest thing they have to programming is using an HDL like VHDL or Verilog. If someone came to me claiming they had a degree in "computer engineering" but really what they knew was advanced JavaScript, I'd make a mistake and place them on a team that's working on IP cores in FPGAs.
– forest
yesterday
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@SmallChess No, that's wrong as well. Electrical engineering is a superset of computer engineering. While a computer engineer is a kind of electrical engineer, it's not necessarily true the other way around. An EE might know about the issues of tin whiskers, but may not know what a TSV is or how it reduces memory latency (which a computer engineer might need to know). Of all the supposed synonyms you provided, only "programming" and "coding" are genuinely interchangeable in all cases.
– forest
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If your diploma is in the same language as your resume is, then whatever it calls the degree is what you put on your resume. If you were translating (because you're applying in a market where employers don't understand the language of your diploma) there would be some wiggle room, but not otherwise.
I don't think many employers would care one whit whether the school you went to happens to call their program one or the other. But if you call the degree something it isn't because you think that makes you sound better qualified than the truth would, then for that reason alone what you're doing is an attempt to deceive. And employers certainly do care about whether your application is deceptive.
answered yesterday
Henning MakholmHenning Makholm
32115
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Alterations can also screw you over if they contact the university and ask if you have a specific degree, especially if they have a different degree with the altered name. The only time I think it would be acceptable is if the university itself had changed the name. My games programming degree was originally a bachelor of design, but was changed in later years to IT when the uni realised what a mistake the former was - in this case, I feel comfortable putting Bachelor of Design (now I.T.): Games Programming on my CV.
– Xono
yesterday
6
There is a huge difference between an degree in software development and software engineering...
– Ramhound
yesterday
add a comment |
If your diploma is in the same language as your resume is, then whatever it calls the degree is what you put on your resume. If you were translating (because you're applying in a market where employers don't understand the language of your diploma) there would be some wiggle room, but not otherwise.
I don't think many employers would care one whit whether the school you went to happens to call their program one or the other. But if you call the degree something it isn't because you think that makes you sound better qualified than the truth would, then for that reason alone what you're doing is an attempt to deceive. And employers certainly do care about whether your application is deceptive.
answered yesterday
Henning MakholmHenning Makholm
32115
5
Alterations can also screw you over if they contact the university and ask if you have a specific degree, especially if they have a different degree with the altered name. The only time I think it would be acceptable is if the university itself had changed the name. My games programming degree was originally a bachelor of design, but was changed in later years to IT when the uni realised what a mistake the former was - in this case, I feel comfortable putting Bachelor of Design (now I.T.): Games Programming on my CV.
– Xono
yesterday
6
There is a huge difference between an degree in software development and software engineering...
– Ramhound
yesterday
add a comment |
If your diploma is in the same language as your resume is, then whatever it calls the degree is what you put on your resume. If you were translating (because you're applying in a market where employers don't understand the language of your diploma) there would be some wiggle room, but not otherwise.
I don't think many employers would care one whit whether the school you went to happens to call their program one or the other. But if you call the degree something it isn't because you think that makes you sound better qualified than the truth would, then for that reason alone what you're doing is an attempt to deceive. And employers certainly do care about whether your application is deceptive.
answered yesterday
Henning MakholmHenning Makholm
32115
If your diploma is in the same language as your resume is, then whatever it calls the degree is what you put on your resume. If you were translating (because you're applying in a market where employers don't understand the language of your diploma) there would be some wiggle room, but not otherwise.
I don't think many employers would care one whit whether the school you went to happens to call their program one or the other. But if you call the degree something it isn't because you think that makes you sound better qualified than the truth would, then for that reason alone what you're doing is an attempt to deceive. And employers certainly do care about whether your application is deceptive.
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Henning MakholmHenning Makholm
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Henning MakholmHenning Makholm
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Henning MakholmHenning Makholm
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Henning MakholmHenning Makholm
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Alterations can also screw you over if they contact the university and ask if you have a specific degree, especially if they have a different degree with the altered name. The only time I think it would be acceptable is if the university itself had changed the name. My games programming degree was originally a bachelor of design, but was changed in later years to IT when the uni realised what a mistake the former was - in this case, I feel comfortable putting Bachelor of Design (now I.T.): Games Programming on my CV.
– Xono
yesterday
6
There is a huge difference between an degree in software development and software engineering...
– Ramhound
yesterday
add a comment |
5
Alterations can also screw you over if they contact the university and ask if you have a specific degree, especially if they have a different degree with the altered name. The only time I think it would be acceptable is if the university itself had changed the name. My games programming degree was originally a bachelor of design, but was changed in later years to IT when the uni realised what a mistake the former was - in this case, I feel comfortable putting Bachelor of Design (now I.T.): Games Programming on my CV.
– Xono
yesterday
6
There is a huge difference between an degree in software development and software engineering...
– Ramhound
yesterday
5
5
Alterations can also screw you over if they contact the university and ask if you have a specific degree, especially if they have a different degree with the altered name. The only time I think it would be acceptable is if the university itself had changed the name. My games programming degree was originally a bachelor of design, but was changed in later years to IT when the uni realised what a mistake the former was - in this case, I feel comfortable putting Bachelor of Design (now I.T.): Games Programming on my CV.
– Xono
yesterday
Alterations can also screw you over if they contact the university and ask if you have a specific degree, especially if they have a different degree with the altered name. The only time I think it would be acceptable is if the university itself had changed the name. My games programming degree was originally a bachelor of design, but was changed in later years to IT when the uni realised what a mistake the former was - in this case, I feel comfortable putting Bachelor of Design (now I.T.): Games Programming on my CV.
– Xono
yesterday
6
6
There is a huge difference between an degree in software development and software engineering...
– Ramhound
yesterday
There is a huge difference between an degree in software development and software engineering...
– Ramhound
yesterday
add a comment |
As the term can't be used interchangeably it can only impact you negatively.
I would not recommend you to do that.
In France, the Engineering diploma can only be delivered by accredited institutions.
Words have meanings, and a simple alteration may be greater than what you think.
edited yesterday
BSMP
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BougretBougret
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No, they cannot be used interchangeably (maybe you used the word mistakenly?). Software Development and Engineering are usually two quite different disciplines; in short, one is typically considered "closer to metal" than the other which is expected to require also a lot of organisational abilities. Changing the title means pretending to have a degree in a topic which you have not a degree in. I agree with the rest of the response.
– Captain Emacs
yesterday
1
@CaptainEmacs Given what the rest of the answer says, I think your aside is correct and it was just a typo.
– BSMP
yesterday
@CaptainEmacs Just to nitpick a bit, as Bougret pointed out, in some countries, Engineer is a title, delivered by accredited institutions. It means you went through competitive exams to get in the school and it's generally considered harder (though not "closer to the metal"), giving it a "higher value" than same level university degree (speaking as a French Engineer here). Furthermore, it's (as pointed earlier) a title (as much as Doctor), so 1) engineers might take it poorly and 2) it's illegal, and can get you in trouble. (Once again, depends on the country OP is in)
– Nyakouai
yesterday
@BSMP Yeah, I got that one. I think the response was fixed. My comment can probably go. Yes, I also realise that Engineer is a special title in France.
– Captain Emacs
yesterday
1
guys, no need for so much discussion about a typo. when you see a typo just (a) click to fix it or (b) the only comment one need make is "is that a typo?" or "looks like a typo". heh!
– Fattie
yesterday
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As the term can't be used interchangeably it can only impact you negatively.
I would not recommend you to do that.
In France, the Engineering diploma can only be delivered by accredited institutions.
Words have meanings, and a simple alteration may be greater than what you think.
edited yesterday
BSMP
3,5221327
answered yesterday
BougretBougret
59729
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No, they cannot be used interchangeably (maybe you used the word mistakenly?). Software Development and Engineering are usually two quite different disciplines; in short, one is typically considered "closer to metal" than the other which is expected to require also a lot of organisational abilities. Changing the title means pretending to have a degree in a topic which you have not a degree in. I agree with the rest of the response.
– Captain Emacs
yesterday
1
@CaptainEmacs Given what the rest of the answer says, I think your aside is correct and it was just a typo.
– BSMP
yesterday
@CaptainEmacs Just to nitpick a bit, as Bougret pointed out, in some countries, Engineer is a title, delivered by accredited institutions. It means you went through competitive exams to get in the school and it's generally considered harder (though not "closer to the metal"), giving it a "higher value" than same level university degree (speaking as a French Engineer here). Furthermore, it's (as pointed earlier) a title (as much as Doctor), so 1) engineers might take it poorly and 2) it's illegal, and can get you in trouble. (Once again, depends on the country OP is in)
– Nyakouai
yesterday
@BSMP Yeah, I got that one. I think the response was fixed. My comment can probably go. Yes, I also realise that Engineer is a special title in France.
– Captain Emacs
yesterday
1
guys, no need for so much discussion about a typo. when you see a typo just (a) click to fix it or (b) the only comment one need make is "is that a typo?" or "looks like a typo". heh!
– Fattie
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As the term can't be used interchangeably it can only impact you negatively.
I would not recommend you to do that.
In France, the Engineering diploma can only be delivered by accredited institutions.
Words have meanings, and a simple alteration may be greater than what you think.
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As the term can't be used interchangeably it can only impact you negatively.
I would not recommend you to do that.
In France, the Engineering diploma can only be delivered by accredited institutions.
Words have meanings, and a simple alteration may be greater than what you think.
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No, they cannot be used interchangeably (maybe you used the word mistakenly?). Software Development and Engineering are usually two quite different disciplines; in short, one is typically considered "closer to metal" than the other which is expected to require also a lot of organisational abilities. Changing the title means pretending to have a degree in a topic which you have not a degree in. I agree with the rest of the response.
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@CaptainEmacs Given what the rest of the answer says, I think your aside is correct and it was just a typo.
– BSMP
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@CaptainEmacs Just to nitpick a bit, as Bougret pointed out, in some countries, Engineer is a title, delivered by accredited institutions. It means you went through competitive exams to get in the school and it's generally considered harder (though not "closer to the metal"), giving it a "higher value" than same level university degree (speaking as a French Engineer here). Furthermore, it's (as pointed earlier) a title (as much as Doctor), so 1) engineers might take it poorly and 2) it's illegal, and can get you in trouble. (Once again, depends on the country OP is in)
– Nyakouai
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@BSMP Yeah, I got that one. I think the response was fixed. My comment can probably go. Yes, I also realise that Engineer is a special title in France.
– Captain Emacs
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guys, no need for so much discussion about a typo. when you see a typo just (a) click to fix it or (b) the only comment one need make is "is that a typo?" or "looks like a typo". heh!
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No, they cannot be used interchangeably (maybe you used the word mistakenly?). Software Development and Engineering are usually two quite different disciplines; in short, one is typically considered "closer to metal" than the other which is expected to require also a lot of organisational abilities. Changing the title means pretending to have a degree in a topic which you have not a degree in. I agree with the rest of the response.
– Captain Emacs
yesterday
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@CaptainEmacs Given what the rest of the answer says, I think your aside is correct and it was just a typo.
– BSMP
yesterday
@CaptainEmacs Just to nitpick a bit, as Bougret pointed out, in some countries, Engineer is a title, delivered by accredited institutions. It means you went through competitive exams to get in the school and it's generally considered harder (though not "closer to the metal"), giving it a "higher value" than same level university degree (speaking as a French Engineer here). Furthermore, it's (as pointed earlier) a title (as much as Doctor), so 1) engineers might take it poorly and 2) it's illegal, and can get you in trouble. (Once again, depends on the country OP is in)
– Nyakouai
yesterday
@BSMP Yeah, I got that one. I think the response was fixed. My comment can probably go. Yes, I also realise that Engineer is a special title in France.
– Captain Emacs
yesterday
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guys, no need for so much discussion about a typo. when you see a typo just (a) click to fix it or (b) the only comment one need make is "is that a typo?" or "looks like a typo". heh!
– Fattie
yesterday
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No, they cannot be used interchangeably (maybe you used the word mistakenly?). Software Development and Engineering are usually two quite different disciplines; in short, one is typically considered "closer to metal" than the other which is expected to require also a lot of organisational abilities. Changing the title means pretending to have a degree in a topic which you have not a degree in. I agree with the rest of the response.
– Captain Emacs
yesterday
No, they cannot be used interchangeably (maybe you used the word mistakenly?). Software Development and Engineering are usually two quite different disciplines; in short, one is typically considered "closer to metal" than the other which is expected to require also a lot of organisational abilities. Changing the title means pretending to have a degree in a topic which you have not a degree in. I agree with the rest of the response.
– Captain Emacs
yesterday
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@CaptainEmacs Given what the rest of the answer says, I think your aside is correct and it was just a typo.
– BSMP
yesterday
@CaptainEmacs Given what the rest of the answer says, I think your aside is correct and it was just a typo.
– BSMP
yesterday
@CaptainEmacs Just to nitpick a bit, as Bougret pointed out, in some countries, Engineer is a title, delivered by accredited institutions. It means you went through competitive exams to get in the school and it's generally considered harder (though not "closer to the metal"), giving it a "higher value" than same level university degree (speaking as a French Engineer here). Furthermore, it's (as pointed earlier) a title (as much as Doctor), so 1) engineers might take it poorly and 2) it's illegal, and can get you in trouble. (Once again, depends on the country OP is in)
– Nyakouai
yesterday
@CaptainEmacs Just to nitpick a bit, as Bougret pointed out, in some countries, Engineer is a title, delivered by accredited institutions. It means you went through competitive exams to get in the school and it's generally considered harder (though not "closer to the metal"), giving it a "higher value" than same level university degree (speaking as a French Engineer here). Furthermore, it's (as pointed earlier) a title (as much as Doctor), so 1) engineers might take it poorly and 2) it's illegal, and can get you in trouble. (Once again, depends on the country OP is in)
– Nyakouai
yesterday
@BSMP Yeah, I got that one. I think the response was fixed. My comment can probably go. Yes, I also realise that Engineer is a special title in France.
– Captain Emacs
yesterday
@BSMP Yeah, I got that one. I think the response was fixed. My comment can probably go. Yes, I also realise that Engineer is a special title in France.
– Captain Emacs
yesterday
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guys, no need for so much discussion about a typo. when you see a typo just (a) click to fix it or (b) the only comment one need make is "is that a typo?" or "looks like a typo". heh!
– Fattie
yesterday
guys, no need for so much discussion about a typo. when you see a typo just (a) click to fix it or (b) the only comment one need make is "is that a typo?" or "looks like a typo". heh!
– Fattie
yesterday
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You should definitely use the exact name of the degree. That ensures that nobody can feel misled, and reduces the risk of verification problems.
If your particular "BS in Software Development" was more rigorous than normal, and you are early enough in your career for degree details to matter, you could supplement by listing some of the subjects you studied, and projects you completed.
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You should definitely use the exact name of the degree. That ensures that nobody can feel misled, and reduces the risk of verification problems.
If your particular "BS in Software Development" was more rigorous than normal, and you are early enough in your career for degree details to matter, you could supplement by listing some of the subjects you studied, and projects you completed.
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You should definitely use the exact name of the degree. That ensures that nobody can feel misled, and reduces the risk of verification problems.
If your particular "BS in Software Development" was more rigorous than normal, and you are early enough in your career for degree details to matter, you could supplement by listing some of the subjects you studied, and projects you completed.
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You should definitely use the exact name of the degree. That ensures that nobody can feel misled, and reduces the risk of verification problems.
If your particular "BS in Software Development" was more rigorous than normal, and you are early enough in your career for degree details to matter, you could supplement by listing some of the subjects you studied, and projects you completed.
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Fact: You don't have a BS in Software Engineering. If you claim it on your CV, you are lying. If you lie on your CV, that can have dire consequences years later. Say you stayed with the company for ten years, risen up in the ranks, and for some reason the company decides to get rid of you. If they find you lied on your CV, you are gone.
The fact that you have a BS in Software Development doesn't change this one bit.
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Fact: You don't have a BS in Software Engineering. If you claim it on your CV, you are lying. If you lie on your CV, that can have dire consequences years later. Say you stayed with the company for ten years, risen up in the ranks, and for some reason the company decides to get rid of you. If they find you lied on your CV, you are gone.
The fact that you have a BS in Software Development doesn't change this one bit.
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Fact: You don't have a BS in Software Engineering. If you claim it on your CV, you are lying. If you lie on your CV, that can have dire consequences years later. Say you stayed with the company for ten years, risen up in the ranks, and for some reason the company decides to get rid of you. If they find you lied on your CV, you are gone.
The fact that you have a BS in Software Development doesn't change this one bit.
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gnasher729gnasher729
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Fact: You don't have a BS in Software Engineering. If you claim it on your CV, you are lying. If you lie on your CV, that can have dire consequences years later. Say you stayed with the company for ten years, risen up in the ranks, and for some reason the company decides to get rid of you. If they find you lied on your CV, you are gone.
The fact that you have a BS in Software Development doesn't change this one bit.
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It may strongly depend on what country you are submitting the resume in. The Association of Engineers and Geoscientists in Canada regulates the usage of the term "Engineer" in both education and professional capacities. You could find yourself at risk of misrepresenting yourself as an Engineer (or eligible for status as a Professional Engineer or P.Eng.), which carries weight.
In some immigration contexts, a mismatch in degree may render you ineligible for visa status (think Japan).
I suggest that you play it safe and only use language that you can prove (provide it as written on your degree).
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It may strongly depend on what country you are submitting the resume in. The Association of Engineers and Geoscientists in Canada regulates the usage of the term "Engineer" in both education and professional capacities. You could find yourself at risk of misrepresenting yourself as an Engineer (or eligible for status as a Professional Engineer or P.Eng.), which carries weight.
In some immigration contexts, a mismatch in degree may render you ineligible for visa status (think Japan).
I suggest that you play it safe and only use language that you can prove (provide it as written on your degree).
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It may strongly depend on what country you are submitting the resume in. The Association of Engineers and Geoscientists in Canada regulates the usage of the term "Engineer" in both education and professional capacities. You could find yourself at risk of misrepresenting yourself as an Engineer (or eligible for status as a Professional Engineer or P.Eng.), which carries weight.
In some immigration contexts, a mismatch in degree may render you ineligible for visa status (think Japan).
I suggest that you play it safe and only use language that you can prove (provide it as written on your degree).
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MalisbadMalisbad
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It may strongly depend on what country you are submitting the resume in. The Association of Engineers and Geoscientists in Canada regulates the usage of the term "Engineer" in both education and professional capacities. You could find yourself at risk of misrepresenting yourself as an Engineer (or eligible for status as a Professional Engineer or P.Eng.), which carries weight.
In some immigration contexts, a mismatch in degree may render you ineligible for visa status (think Japan).
I suggest that you play it safe and only use language that you can prove (provide it as written on your degree).
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The best way to check yourself, whether you can do that "slight modification" in your resume is to try to use the modified degree name and check it against your college / university whether they can produce any result against that query.
In case they return a result with successful candidate and degree certificate, you are probably OK to use the altered nomenclature.
However, if it fails to return any result, that means, your university does not recognize the altered name and you would be seen as lying in your resume.
Although both terms almost mean the same thing and are often used interchangeably,[..]
That's your perception (assumption), it may not be true globally. Do you want to end up being seen as lying? No.
TL;DR - When in doubt, go by what is documented and can be proved if required.
FootNote:
However, many job opportunities mention that you need to have a certain degree or equivalent. Given that the prescribed degree is similar to what you have, you are free to apply but make sure your resume mentions the degree in a way that can be supported with relevant documents (grade sheet, certificates etc.). Whether the organization considers your degree to be eligible, is up to them. At least, you wont be seen as lying.
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Hm, interesting, comments for DV, anyone?
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The best way to check yourself, whether you can do that "slight modification" in your resume is to try to use the modified degree name and check it against your college / university whether they can produce any result against that query.
In case they return a result with successful candidate and degree certificate, you are probably OK to use the altered nomenclature.
However, if it fails to return any result, that means, your university does not recognize the altered name and you would be seen as lying in your resume.
Although both terms almost mean the same thing and are often used interchangeably,[..]
That's your perception (assumption), it may not be true globally. Do you want to end up being seen as lying? No.
TL;DR - When in doubt, go by what is documented and can be proved if required.
FootNote:
However, many job opportunities mention that you need to have a certain degree or equivalent. Given that the prescribed degree is similar to what you have, you are free to apply but make sure your resume mentions the degree in a way that can be supported with relevant documents (grade sheet, certificates etc.). Whether the organization considers your degree to be eligible, is up to them. At least, you wont be seen as lying.
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Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
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Hm, interesting, comments for DV, anyone?
– Sourav Ghosh
yesterday
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The best way to check yourself, whether you can do that "slight modification" in your resume is to try to use the modified degree name and check it against your college / university whether they can produce any result against that query.
In case they return a result with successful candidate and degree certificate, you are probably OK to use the altered nomenclature.
However, if it fails to return any result, that means, your university does not recognize the altered name and you would be seen as lying in your resume.
Although both terms almost mean the same thing and are often used interchangeably,[..]
That's your perception (assumption), it may not be true globally. Do you want to end up being seen as lying? No.
TL;DR - When in doubt, go by what is documented and can be proved if required.
FootNote:
However, many job opportunities mention that you need to have a certain degree or equivalent. Given that the prescribed degree is similar to what you have, you are free to apply but make sure your resume mentions the degree in a way that can be supported with relevant documents (grade sheet, certificates etc.). Whether the organization considers your degree to be eligible, is up to them. At least, you wont be seen as lying.
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Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
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The best way to check yourself, whether you can do that "slight modification" in your resume is to try to use the modified degree name and check it against your college / university whether they can produce any result against that query.
In case they return a result with successful candidate and degree certificate, you are probably OK to use the altered nomenclature.
However, if it fails to return any result, that means, your university does not recognize the altered name and you would be seen as lying in your resume.
Although both terms almost mean the same thing and are often used interchangeably,[..]
That's your perception (assumption), it may not be true globally. Do you want to end up being seen as lying? No.
TL;DR - When in doubt, go by what is documented and can be proved if required.
FootNote:
However, many job opportunities mention that you need to have a certain degree or equivalent. Given that the prescribed degree is similar to what you have, you are free to apply but make sure your resume mentions the degree in a way that can be supported with relevant documents (grade sheet, certificates etc.). Whether the organization considers your degree to be eligible, is up to them. At least, you wont be seen as lying.
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Hm, interesting, comments for DV, anyone?
– Sourav Ghosh
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Hm, interesting, comments for DV, anyone?
– Sourav Ghosh
yesterday
Hm, interesting, comments for DV, anyone?
– Sourav Ghosh
yesterday
Hm, interesting, comments for DV, anyone?
– Sourav Ghosh
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Yes, it's your own resume. You're free to do whatever you want on your own document. "Development", "Computer Science", "Software Engineering", "Programming", "Coding", "Computer Engineering" have the same meaning in English.
They are synonyms.
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Computer science is not interchangeable with the rest of those, as it focuses more on algorithmic theory than creating and debugging software.
– forest
yesterday
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Agree with @forrest, "software engineering" is definitely not interchangeable with "computer science". I have never programmed a Turing machine but I understand how one works for the purposes of complexity theory. Also if we are talking about an academic degree than academic questions are relevant.
– missimer
yesterday
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Unfortunately, I have to disagree with your recent edit as well. Computer engineering is a merging of electrical engineering and computer science. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_engineering.
– forest
yesterday
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No it is not. Computer engineering is about designing circuits on the physical level. Computer engineers care about the speed of electricity and capacitance. They talk about sapphire substrate and asynchronicity. The closest thing they have to programming is using an HDL like VHDL or Verilog. If someone came to me claiming they had a degree in "computer engineering" but really what they knew was advanced JavaScript, I'd make a mistake and place them on a team that's working on IP cores in FPGAs.
– forest
yesterday
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@SmallChess No, that's wrong as well. Electrical engineering is a superset of computer engineering. While a computer engineer is a kind of electrical engineer, it's not necessarily true the other way around. An EE might know about the issues of tin whiskers, but may not know what a TSV is or how it reduces memory latency (which a computer engineer might need to know). Of all the supposed synonyms you provided, only "programming" and "coding" are genuinely interchangeable in all cases.
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Yes, it's your own resume. You're free to do whatever you want on your own document. "Development", "Computer Science", "Software Engineering", "Programming", "Coding", "Computer Engineering" have the same meaning in English.
They are synonyms.
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SmallChessSmallChess
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Computer science is not interchangeable with the rest of those, as it focuses more on algorithmic theory than creating and debugging software.
– forest
yesterday
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Agree with @forrest, "software engineering" is definitely not interchangeable with "computer science". I have never programmed a Turing machine but I understand how one works for the purposes of complexity theory. Also if we are talking about an academic degree than academic questions are relevant.
– missimer
yesterday
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Unfortunately, I have to disagree with your recent edit as well. Computer engineering is a merging of electrical engineering and computer science. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_engineering.
– forest
yesterday
5
No it is not. Computer engineering is about designing circuits on the physical level. Computer engineers care about the speed of electricity and capacitance. They talk about sapphire substrate and asynchronicity. The closest thing they have to programming is using an HDL like VHDL or Verilog. If someone came to me claiming they had a degree in "computer engineering" but really what they knew was advanced JavaScript, I'd make a mistake and place them on a team that's working on IP cores in FPGAs.
– forest
yesterday
5
@SmallChess No, that's wrong as well. Electrical engineering is a superset of computer engineering. While a computer engineer is a kind of electrical engineer, it's not necessarily true the other way around. An EE might know about the issues of tin whiskers, but may not know what a TSV is or how it reduces memory latency (which a computer engineer might need to know). Of all the supposed synonyms you provided, only "programming" and "coding" are genuinely interchangeable in all cases.
– forest
yesterday
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Yes, it's your own resume. You're free to do whatever you want on your own document. "Development", "Computer Science", "Software Engineering", "Programming", "Coding", "Computer Engineering" have the same meaning in English.
They are synonyms.
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SmallChessSmallChess
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Yes, it's your own resume. You're free to do whatever you want on your own document. "Development", "Computer Science", "Software Engineering", "Programming", "Coding", "Computer Engineering" have the same meaning in English.
They are synonyms.
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SmallChessSmallChess
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SmallChessSmallChess
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SmallChessSmallChess
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Computer science is not interchangeable with the rest of those, as it focuses more on algorithmic theory than creating and debugging software.
– forest
yesterday
2
Agree with @forrest, "software engineering" is definitely not interchangeable with "computer science". I have never programmed a Turing machine but I understand how one works for the purposes of complexity theory. Also if we are talking about an academic degree than academic questions are relevant.
– missimer
yesterday
3
Unfortunately, I have to disagree with your recent edit as well. Computer engineering is a merging of electrical engineering and computer science. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_engineering.
– forest
yesterday
5
No it is not. Computer engineering is about designing circuits on the physical level. Computer engineers care about the speed of electricity and capacitance. They talk about sapphire substrate and asynchronicity. The closest thing they have to programming is using an HDL like VHDL or Verilog. If someone came to me claiming they had a degree in "computer engineering" but really what they knew was advanced JavaScript, I'd make a mistake and place them on a team that's working on IP cores in FPGAs.
– forest
yesterday
5
@SmallChess No, that's wrong as well. Electrical engineering is a superset of computer engineering. While a computer engineer is a kind of electrical engineer, it's not necessarily true the other way around. An EE might know about the issues of tin whiskers, but may not know what a TSV is or how it reduces memory latency (which a computer engineer might need to know). Of all the supposed synonyms you provided, only "programming" and "coding" are genuinely interchangeable in all cases.
– forest
yesterday
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Computer science is not interchangeable with the rest of those, as it focuses more on algorithmic theory than creating and debugging software.
– forest
yesterday
2
Agree with @forrest, "software engineering" is definitely not interchangeable with "computer science". I have never programmed a Turing machine but I understand how one works for the purposes of complexity theory. Also if we are talking about an academic degree than academic questions are relevant.
– missimer
yesterday
3
Unfortunately, I have to disagree with your recent edit as well. Computer engineering is a merging of electrical engineering and computer science. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_engineering.
– forest
yesterday
5
No it is not. Computer engineering is about designing circuits on the physical level. Computer engineers care about the speed of electricity and capacitance. They talk about sapphire substrate and asynchronicity. The closest thing they have to programming is using an HDL like VHDL or Verilog. If someone came to me claiming they had a degree in "computer engineering" but really what they knew was advanced JavaScript, I'd make a mistake and place them on a team that's working on IP cores in FPGAs.
– forest
yesterday
5
@SmallChess No, that's wrong as well. Electrical engineering is a superset of computer engineering. While a computer engineer is a kind of electrical engineer, it's not necessarily true the other way around. An EE might know about the issues of tin whiskers, but may not know what a TSV is or how it reduces memory latency (which a computer engineer might need to know). Of all the supposed synonyms you provided, only "programming" and "coding" are genuinely interchangeable in all cases.
– forest
yesterday
4
4
Computer science is not interchangeable with the rest of those, as it focuses more on algorithmic theory than creating and debugging software.
– forest
yesterday
Computer science is not interchangeable with the rest of those, as it focuses more on algorithmic theory than creating and debugging software.
– forest
yesterday
2
2
Agree with @forrest, "software engineering" is definitely not interchangeable with "computer science". I have never programmed a Turing machine but I understand how one works for the purposes of complexity theory. Also if we are talking about an academic degree than academic questions are relevant.
– missimer
yesterday
Agree with @forrest, "software engineering" is definitely not interchangeable with "computer science". I have never programmed a Turing machine but I understand how one works for the purposes of complexity theory. Also if we are talking about an academic degree than academic questions are relevant.
– missimer
yesterday
3
3
Unfortunately, I have to disagree with your recent edit as well. Computer engineering is a merging of electrical engineering and computer science. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_engineering.
– forest
yesterday
Unfortunately, I have to disagree with your recent edit as well. Computer engineering is a merging of electrical engineering and computer science. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_engineering.
– forest
yesterday
5
5
No it is not. Computer engineering is about designing circuits on the physical level. Computer engineers care about the speed of electricity and capacitance. They talk about sapphire substrate and asynchronicity. The closest thing they have to programming is using an HDL like VHDL or Verilog. If someone came to me claiming they had a degree in "computer engineering" but really what they knew was advanced JavaScript, I'd make a mistake and place them on a team that's working on IP cores in FPGAs.
– forest
yesterday
No it is not. Computer engineering is about designing circuits on the physical level. Computer engineers care about the speed of electricity and capacitance. They talk about sapphire substrate and asynchronicity. The closest thing they have to programming is using an HDL like VHDL or Verilog. If someone came to me claiming they had a degree in "computer engineering" but really what they knew was advanced JavaScript, I'd make a mistake and place them on a team that's working on IP cores in FPGAs.
– forest
yesterday
5
5
@SmallChess No, that's wrong as well. Electrical engineering is a superset of computer engineering. While a computer engineer is a kind of electrical engineer, it's not necessarily true the other way around. An EE might know about the issues of tin whiskers, but may not know what a TSV is or how it reduces memory latency (which a computer engineer might need to know). Of all the supposed synonyms you provided, only "programming" and "coding" are genuinely interchangeable in all cases.
– forest
yesterday
@SmallChess No, that's wrong as well. Electrical engineering is a superset of computer engineering. While a computer engineer is a kind of electrical engineer, it's not necessarily true the other way around. An EE might know about the issues of tin whiskers, but may not know what a TSV is or how it reduces memory latency (which a computer engineer might need to know). Of all the supposed synonyms you provided, only "programming" and "coding" are genuinely interchangeable in all cases.
– forest
yesterday
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consider achieving your intent through a more secure path: enroll yourself in some post-grad specialization that gives you the title you are looking for. This way, not only you will have what you want but also a higher degree. It may take one or two years, but it is nonetheless a more secure option. I had a similar problem myself and that was how I solved it.
– Quaestor Lucem
yesterday
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Some areas it is illegal to call yourself an engineer when you are not. DO NOT DO THIS!
– Nelson
yesterday
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I understand why you would want to inflate in your head the name of your degree. Near me there was 2 universities with
BSc Computer ScienceandBSc Computing Science. I would much rather have Computer Science on my resume; but at the end of the day, list your modules as any hiring manager or Software Engineer will know the degrees are identical apart from the name.– Dean Meehan
yesterday
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the two things are very different, so, no
– Fattie
yesterday