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Autoencoders are neural networks that learn a compressed representation of the input in order to later reconstruct it, so they can be used for dimensionality reduction. They are composed of an encoder and a decoder (which can be separate neural networks). Dimensionality reduction can be useful in order to deal with or attenuate the issues related to the curse of dimensionality, where data becomes sparse and it is more difficult to obtain "statistical significance". So, autoencoders (and algorithms like PCA) can be used to deal with the curse of dimensionality.



Why do we care about dimensionality reduction specifically using autoencoders? Why can't we simply use PCA, if the purpose is dimensionality reduction?



Why do we need to decompress the latent representation of the input if we just want to perform dimensionality reduction, or why do we need the decoder part in an autoencoder? What are the use cases? In general, why do we need to compress the input to later decompress it? Wouldn't it be better to just use the original input (to start with)?










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Autoencoders are neural networks that learn a compressed representation of the input in order to later reconstruct it, so they can be used for dimensionality reduction. They are composed of an encoder and a decoder (which can be separate neural networks). Dimensionality reduction can be useful in order to deal with or attenuate the issues related to the curse of dimensionality, where data becomes sparse and it is more difficult to obtain "statistical significance". So, autoencoders (and algorithms like PCA) can be used to deal with the curse of dimensionality.



Why do we care about dimensionality reduction specifically using autoencoders? Why can't we simply use PCA, if the purpose is dimensionality reduction?



Why do we need to decompress the latent representation of the input if we just want to perform dimensionality reduction, or why do we need the decoder part in an autoencoder? What are the use cases? In general, why do we need to compress the input to later decompress it? Wouldn't it be better to just use the original input (to start with)?










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Autoencoders are neural networks that learn a compressed representation of the input in order to later reconstruct it, so they can be used for dimensionality reduction. They are composed of an encoder and a decoder (which can be separate neural networks). Dimensionality reduction can be useful in order to deal with or attenuate the issues related to the curse of dimensionality, where data becomes sparse and it is more difficult to obtain "statistical significance". So, autoencoders (and algorithms like PCA) can be used to deal with the curse of dimensionality.



Why do we care about dimensionality reduction specifically using autoencoders? Why can't we simply use PCA, if the purpose is dimensionality reduction?



Why do we need to decompress the latent representation of the input if we just want to perform dimensionality reduction, or why do we need the decoder part in an autoencoder? What are the use cases? In general, why do we need to compress the input to later decompress it? Wouldn't it be better to just use the original input (to start with)?










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Autoencoders are neural networks that learn a compressed representation of the input in order to later reconstruct it, so they can be used for dimensionality reduction. They are composed of an encoder and a decoder (which can be separate neural networks). Dimensionality reduction can be useful in order to deal with or attenuate the issues related to the curse of dimensionality, where data becomes sparse and it is more difficult to obtain "statistical significance". So, autoencoders (and algorithms like PCA) can be used to deal with the curse of dimensionality.



Why do we care about dimensionality reduction specifically using autoencoders? Why can't we simply use PCA, if the purpose is dimensionality reduction?



Why do we need to decompress the latent representation of the input if we just want to perform dimensionality reduction, or why do we need the decoder part in an autoencoder? What are the use cases? In general, why do we need to compress the input to later decompress it? Wouldn't it be better to just use the original input (to start with)?







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A use case of autoencoders (in particular, of the decoder or generative model of the autoencoder) is to denoise the input. This type of autoencoders, called denoising autoencoders, take a partially corrupted input and they attempt to reconstruct the corresponding uncorrupted input. There are several applications of this model. For example, if you had a corrupted image, you could potentially recover the uncorrupted one using a denoising autoencoder.



Autoencoders and PCA are related:




an autoencoder with a single fully-connected hidden layer, a linear activation function and a squared error cost function trains weights that span the same subspace as the one spanned by the principal component loading vectors, but that they are not identical to the loading vectors.




For more info, have a look at the paper From Principal Subspaces to Principal Components with Linear Autoencoders (2018), by Elad Plaut. See also this answer, which also explains the relation between PCA and autoencoders.






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    PCA is a linear method that creates a transformation that is capable of changing the vectors projections (changing axis)



    Since PCA looks for the direction of maximum variance it usually have high discriminativity BUT it does not guaranteed that the direction of most variance is the direction of most discriminativity.



    LDA is a linear method that creates a transformation that is capable of finding the direction that is most relevant to decide if a vector belong to class A or B.



    PCA and LDA have non-linear Kernel versions that might overcome their linear limitations.



    Autoencoders can perform dimensionality reduction with other kinds of loss function, can be non-linear and might perform better than PCA and LDA for a lot of cases.



    There is probably no best machine learning algorithm to do anything, sometimes Deep Learning and Neural Nets are overkill for simple problems and PCA and LDA might be tried before other, more complex, dimensionality reductions.






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    A use case of autoencoders (in particular, of the decoder or generative model of the autoencoder) is to denoise the input. This type of autoencoders, called denoising autoencoders, take a partially corrupted input and they attempt to reconstruct the corresponding uncorrupted input. There are several applications of this model. For example, if you had a corrupted image, you could potentially recover the uncorrupted one using a denoising autoencoder.



    Autoencoders and PCA are related:




    an autoencoder with a single fully-connected hidden layer, a linear activation function and a squared error cost function trains weights that span the same subspace as the one spanned by the principal component loading vectors, but that they are not identical to the loading vectors.




    For more info, have a look at the paper From Principal Subspaces to Principal Components with Linear Autoencoders (2018), by Elad Plaut. See also this answer, which also explains the relation between PCA and autoencoders.






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      A use case of autoencoders (in particular, of the decoder or generative model of the autoencoder) is to denoise the input. This type of autoencoders, called denoising autoencoders, take a partially corrupted input and they attempt to reconstruct the corresponding uncorrupted input. There are several applications of this model. For example, if you had a corrupted image, you could potentially recover the uncorrupted one using a denoising autoencoder.



      Autoencoders and PCA are related:




      an autoencoder with a single fully-connected hidden layer, a linear activation function and a squared error cost function trains weights that span the same subspace as the one spanned by the principal component loading vectors, but that they are not identical to the loading vectors.




      For more info, have a look at the paper From Principal Subspaces to Principal Components with Linear Autoencoders (2018), by Elad Plaut. See also this answer, which also explains the relation between PCA and autoencoders.






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        A use case of autoencoders (in particular, of the decoder or generative model of the autoencoder) is to denoise the input. This type of autoencoders, called denoising autoencoders, take a partially corrupted input and they attempt to reconstruct the corresponding uncorrupted input. There are several applications of this model. For example, if you had a corrupted image, you could potentially recover the uncorrupted one using a denoising autoencoder.



        Autoencoders and PCA are related:




        an autoencoder with a single fully-connected hidden layer, a linear activation function and a squared error cost function trains weights that span the same subspace as the one spanned by the principal component loading vectors, but that they are not identical to the loading vectors.




        For more info, have a look at the paper From Principal Subspaces to Principal Components with Linear Autoencoders (2018), by Elad Plaut. See also this answer, which also explains the relation between PCA and autoencoders.






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        A use case of autoencoders (in particular, of the decoder or generative model of the autoencoder) is to denoise the input. This type of autoencoders, called denoising autoencoders, take a partially corrupted input and they attempt to reconstruct the corresponding uncorrupted input. There are several applications of this model. For example, if you had a corrupted image, you could potentially recover the uncorrupted one using a denoising autoencoder.



        Autoencoders and PCA are related:




        an autoencoder with a single fully-connected hidden layer, a linear activation function and a squared error cost function trains weights that span the same subspace as the one spanned by the principal component loading vectors, but that they are not identical to the loading vectors.




        For more info, have a look at the paper From Principal Subspaces to Principal Components with Linear Autoencoders (2018), by Elad Plaut. See also this answer, which also explains the relation between PCA and autoencoders.







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            PCA is a linear method that creates a transformation that is capable of changing the vectors projections (changing axis)



            Since PCA looks for the direction of maximum variance it usually have high discriminativity BUT it does not guaranteed that the direction of most variance is the direction of most discriminativity.



            LDA is a linear method that creates a transformation that is capable of finding the direction that is most relevant to decide if a vector belong to class A or B.



            PCA and LDA have non-linear Kernel versions that might overcome their linear limitations.



            Autoencoders can perform dimensionality reduction with other kinds of loss function, can be non-linear and might perform better than PCA and LDA for a lot of cases.



            There is probably no best machine learning algorithm to do anything, sometimes Deep Learning and Neural Nets are overkill for simple problems and PCA and LDA might be tried before other, more complex, dimensionality reductions.






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              What does LDA have to do with question?
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              LDA can be used as dimensionality reduction. The original algorithm derives only one projection but you can use it to get lower ranking discriminative direction for more acurate modelling
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            PCA is a linear method that creates a transformation that is capable of changing the vectors projections (changing axis)



            Since PCA looks for the direction of maximum variance it usually have high discriminativity BUT it does not guaranteed that the direction of most variance is the direction of most discriminativity.



            LDA is a linear method that creates a transformation that is capable of finding the direction that is most relevant to decide if a vector belong to class A or B.



            PCA and LDA have non-linear Kernel versions that might overcome their linear limitations.



            Autoencoders can perform dimensionality reduction with other kinds of loss function, can be non-linear and might perform better than PCA and LDA for a lot of cases.



            There is probably no best machine learning algorithm to do anything, sometimes Deep Learning and Neural Nets are overkill for simple problems and PCA and LDA might be tried before other, more complex, dimensionality reductions.






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            Pedro Henrique Monforte is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
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              What does LDA have to do with question?
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              LDA can be used as dimensionality reduction. The original algorithm derives only one projection but you can use it to get lower ranking discriminative direction for more acurate modelling
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              – Pedro Henrique Monforte
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            PCA is a linear method that creates a transformation that is capable of changing the vectors projections (changing axis)



            Since PCA looks for the direction of maximum variance it usually have high discriminativity BUT it does not guaranteed that the direction of most variance is the direction of most discriminativity.



            LDA is a linear method that creates a transformation that is capable of finding the direction that is most relevant to decide if a vector belong to class A or B.



            PCA and LDA have non-linear Kernel versions that might overcome their linear limitations.



            Autoencoders can perform dimensionality reduction with other kinds of loss function, can be non-linear and might perform better than PCA and LDA for a lot of cases.



            There is probably no best machine learning algorithm to do anything, sometimes Deep Learning and Neural Nets are overkill for simple problems and PCA and LDA might be tried before other, more complex, dimensionality reductions.






            share|improve this answer








            New contributor




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            PCA is a linear method that creates a transformation that is capable of changing the vectors projections (changing axis)



            Since PCA looks for the direction of maximum variance it usually have high discriminativity BUT it does not guaranteed that the direction of most variance is the direction of most discriminativity.



            LDA is a linear method that creates a transformation that is capable of finding the direction that is most relevant to decide if a vector belong to class A or B.



            PCA and LDA have non-linear Kernel versions that might overcome their linear limitations.



            Autoencoders can perform dimensionality reduction with other kinds of loss function, can be non-linear and might perform better than PCA and LDA for a lot of cases.



            There is probably no best machine learning algorithm to do anything, sometimes Deep Learning and Neural Nets are overkill for simple problems and PCA and LDA might be tried before other, more complex, dimensionality reductions.







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              LDA can be used as dimensionality reduction. The original algorithm derives only one projection but you can use it to get lower ranking discriminative direction for more acurate modelling
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              LDA can be used as dimensionality reduction. The original algorithm derives only one projection but you can use it to get lower ranking discriminative direction for more acurate modelling
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            LDA can be used as dimensionality reduction. The original algorithm derives only one projection but you can use it to get lower ranking discriminative direction for more acurate modelling
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            LDA can be used as dimensionality reduction. The original algorithm derives only one projection but you can use it to get lower ranking discriminative direction for more acurate modelling
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