Integrating function with /; in its definition












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f[x_ /; x>=0]:=x;
Integrate[f[x] ,{x,0,2 Pi}]


return unevaluated? Notice that the above definition of f[x] works OK with other Mathematica functions, such as Plot



Plot[f[x], {x, 0, 2 Pi}]


Mathematica graphics



While the following works with Integrate



f[x_]:=x;
Integrate[f[x] ,{x,0,2 Pi}]


I am using version 11.3 on windows.










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    It's better to use ConditionalExpression, e.g., Integrate[ConditionalExpression[x, x>0], {x, 0, 2Pi}]
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$begingroup$


why



f[x_ /; x>=0]:=x;
Integrate[f[x] ,{x,0,2 Pi}]


return unevaluated? Notice that the above definition of f[x] works OK with other Mathematica functions, such as Plot



Plot[f[x], {x, 0, 2 Pi}]


Mathematica graphics



While the following works with Integrate



f[x_]:=x;
Integrate[f[x] ,{x,0,2 Pi}]


I am using version 11.3 on windows.










share|improve this question











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  • 3




    $begingroup$
    It's better to use ConditionalExpression, e.g., Integrate[ConditionalExpression[x, x>0], {x, 0, 2Pi}]
    $endgroup$
    – Carl Woll
    3 hours ago














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$begingroup$


why



f[x_ /; x>=0]:=x;
Integrate[f[x] ,{x,0,2 Pi}]


return unevaluated? Notice that the above definition of f[x] works OK with other Mathematica functions, such as Plot



Plot[f[x], {x, 0, 2 Pi}]


Mathematica graphics



While the following works with Integrate



f[x_]:=x;
Integrate[f[x] ,{x,0,2 Pi}]


I am using version 11.3 on windows.










share|improve this question











$endgroup$




why



f[x_ /; x>=0]:=x;
Integrate[f[x] ,{x,0,2 Pi}]


return unevaluated? Notice that the above definition of f[x] works OK with other Mathematica functions, such as Plot



Plot[f[x], {x, 0, 2 Pi}]


Mathematica graphics



While the following works with Integrate



f[x_]:=x;
Integrate[f[x] ,{x,0,2 Pi}]


I am using version 11.3 on windows.







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  • 3




    $begingroup$
    It's better to use ConditionalExpression, e.g., Integrate[ConditionalExpression[x, x>0], {x, 0, 2Pi}]
    $endgroup$
    – Carl Woll
    3 hours ago














  • 3




    $begingroup$
    It's better to use ConditionalExpression, e.g., Integrate[ConditionalExpression[x, x>0], {x, 0, 2Pi}]
    $endgroup$
    – Carl Woll
    3 hours ago








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$begingroup$
It's better to use ConditionalExpression, e.g., Integrate[ConditionalExpression[x, x>0], {x, 0, 2Pi}]
$endgroup$
– Carl Woll
3 hours ago




$begingroup$
It's better to use ConditionalExpression, e.g., Integrate[ConditionalExpression[x, x>0], {x, 0, 2Pi}]
$endgroup$
– Carl Woll
3 hours ago










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f[x_ /; x>=0]:=x means "if whatever>=0 rewrite f[whatever] as whatever. But that doesn't apply to f[x] when x is a symbol without a numerical value. Thus, f[x] simply remains f[x]. For abstracting the notion of a function with a break like this, use Piecewise or HeavisideTheta: Integrate understands what those mean.






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        f[x_ /; x>=0]:=x means "if whatever>=0 rewrite f[whatever] as whatever. But that doesn't apply to f[x] when x is a symbol without a numerical value. Thus, f[x] simply remains f[x]. For abstracting the notion of a function with a break like this, use Piecewise or HeavisideTheta: Integrate understands what those mean.






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