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A lot of the users in my company are using their agendas to write down their password and usernames, or Excel sheets with a protected password. I'm hesitant to install software for password management after reading recommendations/feedback on them. Is there any other secure and user-friendly solution to store passwords?










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    Spreadsheets are a terrible choice. Offline password managers like KeePass are going to be your best option. Other than that I don't know what anyone could suggest - it's pretty much that or writing them in a physical book.

    – Polynomial
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  • Maybe ask IT if they have a recommended solution. They may already have some software they allow.

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    4 hours ago






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    What is it about the recommendations/feedback that’s made you hesitant?

    – Ry-
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  • Potential duplicate? security.stackexchange.com/questions/175075/…

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    Spreadsheets are a terrible choice. Offline password managers like KeePass are going to be your best option. Other than that I don't know what anyone could suggest - it's pretty much that or writing them in a physical book.

    – Polynomial
    4 hours ago











  • Maybe ask IT if they have a recommended solution. They may already have some software they allow.

    – Daisetsu
    4 hours ago






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    What is it about the recommendations/feedback that’s made you hesitant?

    – Ry-
    3 hours ago











  • Potential duplicate? security.stackexchange.com/questions/175075/…

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    3 hours ago














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    Spreadsheets are a terrible choice. Offline password managers like KeePass are going to be your best option. Other than that I don't know what anyone could suggest - it's pretty much that or writing them in a physical book.

    – Polynomial
    4 hours ago











  • Maybe ask IT if they have a recommended solution. They may already have some software they allow.

    – Daisetsu
    4 hours ago






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    What is it about the recommendations/feedback that’s made you hesitant?

    – Ry-
    3 hours ago











  • Potential duplicate? security.stackexchange.com/questions/175075/…

    – schroeder
    3 hours ago














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    Spreadsheets are a terrible choice. Offline password managers like KeePass are going to be your best option. Other than that I don't know what anyone could suggest - it's pretty much that or writing them in a physical book.

    – Polynomial
    4 hours ago











  • Maybe ask IT if they have a recommended solution. They may already have some software they allow.

    – Daisetsu
    4 hours ago






  • 5





    What is it about the recommendations/feedback that’s made you hesitant?

    – Ry-
    3 hours ago











  • Potential duplicate? security.stackexchange.com/questions/175075/…

    – schroeder
    3 hours ago








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Spreadsheets are a terrible choice. Offline password managers like KeePass are going to be your best option. Other than that I don't know what anyone could suggest - it's pretty much that or writing them in a physical book.

– Polynomial
4 hours ago





Spreadsheets are a terrible choice. Offline password managers like KeePass are going to be your best option. Other than that I don't know what anyone could suggest - it's pretty much that or writing them in a physical book.

– Polynomial
4 hours ago













Maybe ask IT if they have a recommended solution. They may already have some software they allow.

– Daisetsu
4 hours ago





Maybe ask IT if they have a recommended solution. They may already have some software they allow.

– Daisetsu
4 hours ago




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What is it about the recommendations/feedback that’s made you hesitant?

– Ry-
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What is it about the recommendations/feedback that’s made you hesitant?

– Ry-
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Potential duplicate? security.stackexchange.com/questions/175075/…

– schroeder
3 hours ago





Potential duplicate? security.stackexchange.com/questions/175075/…

– schroeder
3 hours ago










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Install a password manager. A good password manager is much, much better than anything you can do by yourself.



They are software created by security professionals, follow strict development rules, and are tested by a lot of people, and attacked by a lot of people. They have better chance of protecting your passwords than anything invented by the average, even the above average user.






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  • how does one know which is a good password manage and if they actually follow all the strict development rules ?

    – Nigel Fds
    31 mins ago











  • @NigelFds Some, like Password, get audited by 3rd parties. support.1password.com/security-assessments

    – Schwern
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You're probably referring to the recent articles about flaws in password managers.





  • Password managers have a security flaw. But you should still use one. (Washington Post)


  • Password managers leaking data in memory, but you should still use one. (Sophos)


Its right there in the titles, password managers have flaws and you should still use one because they're more secure than what many folks do, like keeping passwords in Excel, emailing them around, pasting them into chat where they'll be logged by everyone...



All software has flaws. Password managers, and security software in general, is held to a higher standard than run-of-the-mill software. The flaws these articles are talking about in password managers are not rookie mistakes, but risk trade-offs.



1Password has a write up about the latest flaw. It's not a mistake as it is a consequence of a trade-off to avoid other worse memory bugs. The important bit is that your computer must already be compromised and you have recently typed in your master password. If your computer is already compromised, keeping your passwords in an Excel spreadsheet offers you no protection.



Password managers can do other things to add to your security.




  • Share and manage your passwords between all your devices, including mobile devices.

  • Share and manage passwords and credentials with co-workers.

  • Store more than just passwords securely.


    • GPG and SSH keys and passphrases


    • One-time password generators

    • Recovery keys

    • Security questions

    • API keys

    • Notes



  • Inform you of insecure passwords


    • Reused passwords

    • Password breaches



  • Generate secure passwords

  • Auto-fill passwords (avoids being shoulder surfed)

  • Auto-record new accounts


These avoid bad practices such as reusing passwords, using weak passwords, sharing them via email or chat or a shared document, writing them down (whether on paper or a file), and continuing to use breached passwords.






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    Your only solution is to select passwords, that are hard to break but easy to remember, then you don't need to write them down anywhere!



    But seriously, maybe you can ask your IT support to install a password manager server for your whole company, then you don't need to install one on your machine.






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      I think that the hesitation is with using a password manager in general, not the local install.

      – schroeder
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    • But usually the passwords are for something, often for resources on the web. So if you are sending the password through the web, you can also store it on a server that is accessible only internally in your company network, secured by your real password, multiple users can share passwords for some resources, bla bla, <insert advertisment for pwd managment servers here> :-)

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    If you do not want a password manager program, print them out and store then in a safe or something secure rather than just a notebook like your co workers use.






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      This is fine as a backup for your super important passwords, like the password to your password manager, but for any day-to-day passwords you need them in a convenient and secure location. A safe will not cut it.

      – Schwern
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    Install a password manager. A good password manager is much, much better than anything you can do by yourself.



    They are software created by security professionals, follow strict development rules, and are tested by a lot of people, and attacked by a lot of people. They have better chance of protecting your passwords than anything invented by the average, even the above average user.






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    • how does one know which is a good password manage and if they actually follow all the strict development rules ?

      – Nigel Fds
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    • @NigelFds Some, like Password, get audited by 3rd parties. support.1password.com/security-assessments

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    Install a password manager. A good password manager is much, much better than anything you can do by yourself.



    They are software created by security professionals, follow strict development rules, and are tested by a lot of people, and attacked by a lot of people. They have better chance of protecting your passwords than anything invented by the average, even the above average user.






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    • how does one know which is a good password manage and if they actually follow all the strict development rules ?

      – Nigel Fds
      31 mins ago











    • @NigelFds Some, like Password, get audited by 3rd parties. support.1password.com/security-assessments

      – Schwern
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    Install a password manager. A good password manager is much, much better than anything you can do by yourself.



    They are software created by security professionals, follow strict development rules, and are tested by a lot of people, and attacked by a lot of people. They have better chance of protecting your passwords than anything invented by the average, even the above average user.






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    Install a password manager. A good password manager is much, much better than anything you can do by yourself.



    They are software created by security professionals, follow strict development rules, and are tested by a lot of people, and attacked by a lot of people. They have better chance of protecting your passwords than anything invented by the average, even the above average user.







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    • how does one know which is a good password manage and if they actually follow all the strict development rules ?

      – Nigel Fds
      31 mins ago











    • @NigelFds Some, like Password, get audited by 3rd parties. support.1password.com/security-assessments

      – Schwern
      2 mins ago



















    • how does one know which is a good password manage and if they actually follow all the strict development rules ?

      – Nigel Fds
      31 mins ago











    • @NigelFds Some, like Password, get audited by 3rd parties. support.1password.com/security-assessments

      – Schwern
      2 mins ago

















    how does one know which is a good password manage and if they actually follow all the strict development rules ?

    – Nigel Fds
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    how does one know which is a good password manage and if they actually follow all the strict development rules ?

    – Nigel Fds
    31 mins ago













    @NigelFds Some, like Password, get audited by 3rd parties. support.1password.com/security-assessments

    – Schwern
    2 mins ago





    @NigelFds Some, like Password, get audited by 3rd parties. support.1password.com/security-assessments

    – Schwern
    2 mins ago













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    You're probably referring to the recent articles about flaws in password managers.





    • Password managers have a security flaw. But you should still use one. (Washington Post)


    • Password managers leaking data in memory, but you should still use one. (Sophos)


    Its right there in the titles, password managers have flaws and you should still use one because they're more secure than what many folks do, like keeping passwords in Excel, emailing them around, pasting them into chat where they'll be logged by everyone...



    All software has flaws. Password managers, and security software in general, is held to a higher standard than run-of-the-mill software. The flaws these articles are talking about in password managers are not rookie mistakes, but risk trade-offs.



    1Password has a write up about the latest flaw. It's not a mistake as it is a consequence of a trade-off to avoid other worse memory bugs. The important bit is that your computer must already be compromised and you have recently typed in your master password. If your computer is already compromised, keeping your passwords in an Excel spreadsheet offers you no protection.



    Password managers can do other things to add to your security.




    • Share and manage your passwords between all your devices, including mobile devices.

    • Share and manage passwords and credentials with co-workers.

    • Store more than just passwords securely.


      • GPG and SSH keys and passphrases


      • One-time password generators

      • Recovery keys

      • Security questions

      • API keys

      • Notes



    • Inform you of insecure passwords


      • Reused passwords

      • Password breaches



    • Generate secure passwords

    • Auto-fill passwords (avoids being shoulder surfed)

    • Auto-record new accounts


    These avoid bad practices such as reusing passwords, using weak passwords, sharing them via email or chat or a shared document, writing them down (whether on paper or a file), and continuing to use breached passwords.






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      You're probably referring to the recent articles about flaws in password managers.





      • Password managers have a security flaw. But you should still use one. (Washington Post)


      • Password managers leaking data in memory, but you should still use one. (Sophos)


      Its right there in the titles, password managers have flaws and you should still use one because they're more secure than what many folks do, like keeping passwords in Excel, emailing them around, pasting them into chat where they'll be logged by everyone...



      All software has flaws. Password managers, and security software in general, is held to a higher standard than run-of-the-mill software. The flaws these articles are talking about in password managers are not rookie mistakes, but risk trade-offs.



      1Password has a write up about the latest flaw. It's not a mistake as it is a consequence of a trade-off to avoid other worse memory bugs. The important bit is that your computer must already be compromised and you have recently typed in your master password. If your computer is already compromised, keeping your passwords in an Excel spreadsheet offers you no protection.



      Password managers can do other things to add to your security.




      • Share and manage your passwords between all your devices, including mobile devices.

      • Share and manage passwords and credentials with co-workers.

      • Store more than just passwords securely.


        • GPG and SSH keys and passphrases


        • One-time password generators

        • Recovery keys

        • Security questions

        • API keys

        • Notes



      • Inform you of insecure passwords


        • Reused passwords

        • Password breaches



      • Generate secure passwords

      • Auto-fill passwords (avoids being shoulder surfed)

      • Auto-record new accounts


      These avoid bad practices such as reusing passwords, using weak passwords, sharing them via email or chat or a shared document, writing them down (whether on paper or a file), and continuing to use breached passwords.






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        You're probably referring to the recent articles about flaws in password managers.





        • Password managers have a security flaw. But you should still use one. (Washington Post)


        • Password managers leaking data in memory, but you should still use one. (Sophos)


        Its right there in the titles, password managers have flaws and you should still use one because they're more secure than what many folks do, like keeping passwords in Excel, emailing them around, pasting them into chat where they'll be logged by everyone...



        All software has flaws. Password managers, and security software in general, is held to a higher standard than run-of-the-mill software. The flaws these articles are talking about in password managers are not rookie mistakes, but risk trade-offs.



        1Password has a write up about the latest flaw. It's not a mistake as it is a consequence of a trade-off to avoid other worse memory bugs. The important bit is that your computer must already be compromised and you have recently typed in your master password. If your computer is already compromised, keeping your passwords in an Excel spreadsheet offers you no protection.



        Password managers can do other things to add to your security.




        • Share and manage your passwords between all your devices, including mobile devices.

        • Share and manage passwords and credentials with co-workers.

        • Store more than just passwords securely.


          • GPG and SSH keys and passphrases


          • One-time password generators

          • Recovery keys

          • Security questions

          • API keys

          • Notes



        • Inform you of insecure passwords


          • Reused passwords

          • Password breaches



        • Generate secure passwords

        • Auto-fill passwords (avoids being shoulder surfed)

        • Auto-record new accounts


        These avoid bad practices such as reusing passwords, using weak passwords, sharing them via email or chat or a shared document, writing them down (whether on paper or a file), and continuing to use breached passwords.






        share|improve this answer















        You're probably referring to the recent articles about flaws in password managers.





        • Password managers have a security flaw. But you should still use one. (Washington Post)


        • Password managers leaking data in memory, but you should still use one. (Sophos)


        Its right there in the titles, password managers have flaws and you should still use one because they're more secure than what many folks do, like keeping passwords in Excel, emailing them around, pasting them into chat where they'll be logged by everyone...



        All software has flaws. Password managers, and security software in general, is held to a higher standard than run-of-the-mill software. The flaws these articles are talking about in password managers are not rookie mistakes, but risk trade-offs.



        1Password has a write up about the latest flaw. It's not a mistake as it is a consequence of a trade-off to avoid other worse memory bugs. The important bit is that your computer must already be compromised and you have recently typed in your master password. If your computer is already compromised, keeping your passwords in an Excel spreadsheet offers you no protection.



        Password managers can do other things to add to your security.




        • Share and manage your passwords between all your devices, including mobile devices.

        • Share and manage passwords and credentials with co-workers.

        • Store more than just passwords securely.


          • GPG and SSH keys and passphrases


          • One-time password generators

          • Recovery keys

          • Security questions

          • API keys

          • Notes



        • Inform you of insecure passwords


          • Reused passwords

          • Password breaches



        • Generate secure passwords

        • Auto-fill passwords (avoids being shoulder surfed)

        • Auto-record new accounts


        These avoid bad practices such as reusing passwords, using weak passwords, sharing them via email or chat or a shared document, writing them down (whether on paper or a file), and continuing to use breached passwords.







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            Your only solution is to select passwords, that are hard to break but easy to remember, then you don't need to write them down anywhere!



            But seriously, maybe you can ask your IT support to install a password manager server for your whole company, then you don't need to install one on your machine.






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              I think that the hesitation is with using a password manager in general, not the local install.

              – schroeder
              1 hour ago











            • But usually the passwords are for something, often for resources on the web. So if you are sending the password through the web, you can also store it on a server that is accessible only internally in your company network, secured by your real password, multiple users can share passwords for some resources, bla bla, <insert advertisment for pwd managment servers here> :-)

              – Paris
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            Your only solution is to select passwords, that are hard to break but easy to remember, then you don't need to write them down anywhere!



            But seriously, maybe you can ask your IT support to install a password manager server for your whole company, then you don't need to install one on your machine.






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              I think that the hesitation is with using a password manager in general, not the local install.

              – schroeder
              1 hour ago











            • But usually the passwords are for something, often for resources on the web. So if you are sending the password through the web, you can also store it on a server that is accessible only internally in your company network, secured by your real password, multiple users can share passwords for some resources, bla bla, <insert advertisment for pwd managment servers here> :-)

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            Your only solution is to select passwords, that are hard to break but easy to remember, then you don't need to write them down anywhere!



            But seriously, maybe you can ask your IT support to install a password manager server for your whole company, then you don't need to install one on your machine.






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            Your only solution is to select passwords, that are hard to break but easy to remember, then you don't need to write them down anywhere!



            But seriously, maybe you can ask your IT support to install a password manager server for your whole company, then you don't need to install one on your machine.







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              I think that the hesitation is with using a password manager in general, not the local install.

              – schroeder
              1 hour ago











            • But usually the passwords are for something, often for resources on the web. So if you are sending the password through the web, you can also store it on a server that is accessible only internally in your company network, secured by your real password, multiple users can share passwords for some resources, bla bla, <insert advertisment for pwd managment servers here> :-)

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              I think that the hesitation is with using a password manager in general, not the local install.

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            • But usually the passwords are for something, often for resources on the web. So if you are sending the password through the web, you can also store it on a server that is accessible only internally in your company network, secured by your real password, multiple users can share passwords for some resources, bla bla, <insert advertisment for pwd managment servers here> :-)

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            I think that the hesitation is with using a password manager in general, not the local install.

            – schroeder
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            I think that the hesitation is with using a password manager in general, not the local install.

            – schroeder
            1 hour ago













            But usually the passwords are for something, often for resources on the web. So if you are sending the password through the web, you can also store it on a server that is accessible only internally in your company network, secured by your real password, multiple users can share passwords for some resources, bla bla, <insert advertisment for pwd managment servers here> :-)

            – Paris
            32 mins ago





            But usually the passwords are for something, often for resources on the web. So if you are sending the password through the web, you can also store it on a server that is accessible only internally in your company network, secured by your real password, multiple users can share passwords for some resources, bla bla, <insert advertisment for pwd managment servers here> :-)

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            If you do not want a password manager program, print them out and store then in a safe or something secure rather than just a notebook like your co workers use.






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              This is fine as a backup for your super important passwords, like the password to your password manager, but for any day-to-day passwords you need them in a convenient and secure location. A safe will not cut it.

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              This is fine as a backup for your super important passwords, like the password to your password manager, but for any day-to-day passwords you need them in a convenient and secure location. A safe will not cut it.

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              This is fine as a backup for your super important passwords, like the password to your password manager, but for any day-to-day passwords you need them in a convenient and secure location. A safe will not cut it.

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