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I'm wanting to refine the de-duping rules, but first of all I'd like to find out exactly what the predefined rules are before I create my own. They are reserved, so you can't edit them, which is fine, but it only tells you which fields they use and not what the weights and thresholds are so the full behaviour is not clear.










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    I'm wanting to refine the de-duping rules, but first of all I'd like to find out exactly what the predefined rules are before I create my own. They are reserved, so you can't edit them, which is fine, but it only tells you which fields they use and not what the weights and thresholds are so the full behaviour is not clear.










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      I'm wanting to refine the de-duping rules, but first of all I'd like to find out exactly what the predefined rules are before I create my own. They are reserved, so you can't edit them, which is fine, but it only tells you which fields they use and not what the weights and thresholds are so the full behaviour is not clear.










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      I'm wanting to refine the de-duping rules, but first of all I'd like to find out exactly what the predefined rules are before I create my own. They are reserved, so you can't edit them, which is fine, but it only tells you which fields they use and not what the weights and thresholds are so the full behaviour is not clear.







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          If you have access to the database type



          SELECT * from civicrm_dedupe_rule r inner join civicrm_dedupe_rule_group rg on rg.id = r.dedupe_rule_group_id;



          which will give you a table which isn't pretty but is mostly understandable.






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          • Ah you're right. I'll update answer.

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          • Thanks that tells me what I need, so I have deleted my earlier comment on your previous version of the answer

            – Mick Kahn
            5 hours ago



















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          Using Demerit's correct and useful answer above, here are the details in plain text of the three pre-configured rules that you can't see by the normal method, so may be of use to others:



          Name and Email (reserved): Supervised: Individual



          First Name: Length "null", Weight 5



          Last Name: Length "null", Weight 7



          Email: Length "null", Weight 10



          Threshold 20



          Email (reserved): Unsupervised: Individual



          Email: Length "null", Weight 10



          Threshold 20



          Name and Address (reserved): General: Individual



          First Name: Length "null", Weight 5



          Last Name: Length "null", Weight 5



          Street Address: Length "null", Weight 5



          Middle Name: Length "null", Weight 1



          Suffix: Length "null", Weight 1



          Threshold: 15






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          • Not blaming you at all but some of those look a bit nuts. Is it possible you mis-copied the Email Unsupervised? Having Email = 10 and Threshold = 20 does not seem healthy. I do not see that on a site i just checked. The Threshold was set to 10.

            – petednz - fuzion
            3 hours ago













          • For the Name and Address (which I do see the same on a db i just checked) have Middle Name = 1 and Suffix = 1 for a Threshold of 15 seems pointless as they will never play a role in determining someone is a match will they?

            – petednz - fuzion
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          If you have access to the database type



          SELECT * from civicrm_dedupe_rule r inner join civicrm_dedupe_rule_group rg on rg.id = r.dedupe_rule_group_id;



          which will give you a table which isn't pretty but is mostly understandable.






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          • Ah you're right. I'll update answer.

            – Demerit
            7 hours ago











          • Thanks that tells me what I need, so I have deleted my earlier comment on your previous version of the answer

            – Mick Kahn
            5 hours ago
















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          If you have access to the database type



          SELECT * from civicrm_dedupe_rule r inner join civicrm_dedupe_rule_group rg on rg.id = r.dedupe_rule_group_id;



          which will give you a table which isn't pretty but is mostly understandable.






          share|improve this answer


























          • Ah you're right. I'll update answer.

            – Demerit
            7 hours ago











          • Thanks that tells me what I need, so I have deleted my earlier comment on your previous version of the answer

            – Mick Kahn
            5 hours ago














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          If you have access to the database type



          SELECT * from civicrm_dedupe_rule r inner join civicrm_dedupe_rule_group rg on rg.id = r.dedupe_rule_group_id;



          which will give you a table which isn't pretty but is mostly understandable.






          share|improve this answer















          If you have access to the database type



          SELECT * from civicrm_dedupe_rule r inner join civicrm_dedupe_rule_group rg on rg.id = r.dedupe_rule_group_id;



          which will give you a table which isn't pretty but is mostly understandable.







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          • Ah you're right. I'll update answer.

            – Demerit
            7 hours ago











          • Thanks that tells me what I need, so I have deleted my earlier comment on your previous version of the answer

            – Mick Kahn
            5 hours ago



















          • Ah you're right. I'll update answer.

            – Demerit
            7 hours ago











          • Thanks that tells me what I need, so I have deleted my earlier comment on your previous version of the answer

            – Mick Kahn
            5 hours ago

















          Ah you're right. I'll update answer.

          – Demerit
          7 hours ago





          Ah you're right. I'll update answer.

          – Demerit
          7 hours ago













          Thanks that tells me what I need, so I have deleted my earlier comment on your previous version of the answer

          – Mick Kahn
          5 hours ago





          Thanks that tells me what I need, so I have deleted my earlier comment on your previous version of the answer

          – Mick Kahn
          5 hours ago











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          Using Demerit's correct and useful answer above, here are the details in plain text of the three pre-configured rules that you can't see by the normal method, so may be of use to others:



          Name and Email (reserved): Supervised: Individual



          First Name: Length "null", Weight 5



          Last Name: Length "null", Weight 7



          Email: Length "null", Weight 10



          Threshold 20



          Email (reserved): Unsupervised: Individual



          Email: Length "null", Weight 10



          Threshold 20



          Name and Address (reserved): General: Individual



          First Name: Length "null", Weight 5



          Last Name: Length "null", Weight 5



          Street Address: Length "null", Weight 5



          Middle Name: Length "null", Weight 1



          Suffix: Length "null", Weight 1



          Threshold: 15






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          • Not blaming you at all but some of those look a bit nuts. Is it possible you mis-copied the Email Unsupervised? Having Email = 10 and Threshold = 20 does not seem healthy. I do not see that on a site i just checked. The Threshold was set to 10.

            – petednz - fuzion
            3 hours ago













          • For the Name and Address (which I do see the same on a db i just checked) have Middle Name = 1 and Suffix = 1 for a Threshold of 15 seems pointless as they will never play a role in determining someone is a match will they?

            – petednz - fuzion
            3 hours ago
















          2














          Using Demerit's correct and useful answer above, here are the details in plain text of the three pre-configured rules that you can't see by the normal method, so may be of use to others:



          Name and Email (reserved): Supervised: Individual



          First Name: Length "null", Weight 5



          Last Name: Length "null", Weight 7



          Email: Length "null", Weight 10



          Threshold 20



          Email (reserved): Unsupervised: Individual



          Email: Length "null", Weight 10



          Threshold 20



          Name and Address (reserved): General: Individual



          First Name: Length "null", Weight 5



          Last Name: Length "null", Weight 5



          Street Address: Length "null", Weight 5



          Middle Name: Length "null", Weight 1



          Suffix: Length "null", Weight 1



          Threshold: 15






          share|improve this answer
























          • Not blaming you at all but some of those look a bit nuts. Is it possible you mis-copied the Email Unsupervised? Having Email = 10 and Threshold = 20 does not seem healthy. I do not see that on a site i just checked. The Threshold was set to 10.

            – petednz - fuzion
            3 hours ago













          • For the Name and Address (which I do see the same on a db i just checked) have Middle Name = 1 and Suffix = 1 for a Threshold of 15 seems pointless as they will never play a role in determining someone is a match will they?

            – petednz - fuzion
            3 hours ago














          2












          2








          2







          Using Demerit's correct and useful answer above, here are the details in plain text of the three pre-configured rules that you can't see by the normal method, so may be of use to others:



          Name and Email (reserved): Supervised: Individual



          First Name: Length "null", Weight 5



          Last Name: Length "null", Weight 7



          Email: Length "null", Weight 10



          Threshold 20



          Email (reserved): Unsupervised: Individual



          Email: Length "null", Weight 10



          Threshold 20



          Name and Address (reserved): General: Individual



          First Name: Length "null", Weight 5



          Last Name: Length "null", Weight 5



          Street Address: Length "null", Weight 5



          Middle Name: Length "null", Weight 1



          Suffix: Length "null", Weight 1



          Threshold: 15






          share|improve this answer













          Using Demerit's correct and useful answer above, here are the details in plain text of the three pre-configured rules that you can't see by the normal method, so may be of use to others:



          Name and Email (reserved): Supervised: Individual



          First Name: Length "null", Weight 5



          Last Name: Length "null", Weight 7



          Email: Length "null", Weight 10



          Threshold 20



          Email (reserved): Unsupervised: Individual



          Email: Length "null", Weight 10



          Threshold 20



          Name and Address (reserved): General: Individual



          First Name: Length "null", Weight 5



          Last Name: Length "null", Weight 5



          Street Address: Length "null", Weight 5



          Middle Name: Length "null", Weight 1



          Suffix: Length "null", Weight 1



          Threshold: 15







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          answered 5 hours ago









          Mick KahnMick Kahn

          636216




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          • Not blaming you at all but some of those look a bit nuts. Is it possible you mis-copied the Email Unsupervised? Having Email = 10 and Threshold = 20 does not seem healthy. I do not see that on a site i just checked. The Threshold was set to 10.

            – petednz - fuzion
            3 hours ago













          • For the Name and Address (which I do see the same on a db i just checked) have Middle Name = 1 and Suffix = 1 for a Threshold of 15 seems pointless as they will never play a role in determining someone is a match will they?

            – petednz - fuzion
            3 hours ago



















          • Not blaming you at all but some of those look a bit nuts. Is it possible you mis-copied the Email Unsupervised? Having Email = 10 and Threshold = 20 does not seem healthy. I do not see that on a site i just checked. The Threshold was set to 10.

            – petednz - fuzion
            3 hours ago













          • For the Name and Address (which I do see the same on a db i just checked) have Middle Name = 1 and Suffix = 1 for a Threshold of 15 seems pointless as they will never play a role in determining someone is a match will they?

            – petednz - fuzion
            3 hours ago

















          Not blaming you at all but some of those look a bit nuts. Is it possible you mis-copied the Email Unsupervised? Having Email = 10 and Threshold = 20 does not seem healthy. I do not see that on a site i just checked. The Threshold was set to 10.

          – petednz - fuzion
          3 hours ago







          Not blaming you at all but some of those look a bit nuts. Is it possible you mis-copied the Email Unsupervised? Having Email = 10 and Threshold = 20 does not seem healthy. I do not see that on a site i just checked. The Threshold was set to 10.

          – petednz - fuzion
          3 hours ago















          For the Name and Address (which I do see the same on a db i just checked) have Middle Name = 1 and Suffix = 1 for a Threshold of 15 seems pointless as they will never play a role in determining someone is a match will they?

          – petednz - fuzion
          3 hours ago





          For the Name and Address (which I do see the same on a db i just checked) have Middle Name = 1 and Suffix = 1 for a Threshold of 15 seems pointless as they will never play a role in determining someone is a match will they?

          – petednz - fuzion
          3 hours ago


















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