Can TVöD table in Germany be used as comparison for salary negotiation?





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The TVöD table is used only for state jobs, as far as I understand. Can this table be used as reference for realistic salary expectations (as a Software Developer) or is it way too high or way too low compared to the actual average salaries?










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  • In comparison to industry, the state pays absolutely lousy for developers. It's of course location dependant, but in the frankfurt metro area for instance private industry devs get 40-80% more depending on seniority and specialization

    – Magisch
    13 hours ago






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    @Magisch Flesh that out a bit and that sounds like a good answer to me!

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  • @Magisch But it’s correct to assume that the values in the table are the minimum salary for degree/years or experience?

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  • In comparison to industry, the state pays absolutely lousy for developers. It's of course location dependant, but in the frankfurt metro area for instance private industry devs get 40-80% more depending on seniority and specialization

    – Magisch
    13 hours ago






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    @Magisch Flesh that out a bit and that sounds like a good answer to me!

    – motosubatsu
    13 hours ago











  • @Magisch But it’s correct to assume that the values in the table are the minimum salary for degree/years or experience?

    – itsaMe
    12 hours ago














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The TVöD table is used only for state jobs, as far as I understand. Can this table be used as reference for realistic salary expectations (as a Software Developer) or is it way too high or way too low compared to the actual average salaries?










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  • In comparison to industry, the state pays absolutely lousy for developers. It's of course location dependant, but in the frankfurt metro area for instance private industry devs get 40-80% more depending on seniority and specialization

    – Magisch
    13 hours ago






  • 2





    @Magisch Flesh that out a bit and that sounds like a good answer to me!

    – motosubatsu
    13 hours ago











  • @Magisch But it’s correct to assume that the values in the table are the minimum salary for degree/years or experience?

    – itsaMe
    12 hours ago



















  • In comparison to industry, the state pays absolutely lousy for developers. It's of course location dependant, but in the frankfurt metro area for instance private industry devs get 40-80% more depending on seniority and specialization

    – Magisch
    13 hours ago






  • 2





    @Magisch Flesh that out a bit and that sounds like a good answer to me!

    – motosubatsu
    13 hours ago











  • @Magisch But it’s correct to assume that the values in the table are the minimum salary for degree/years or experience?

    – itsaMe
    12 hours ago

















In comparison to industry, the state pays absolutely lousy for developers. It's of course location dependant, but in the frankfurt metro area for instance private industry devs get 40-80% more depending on seniority and specialization

– Magisch
13 hours ago





In comparison to industry, the state pays absolutely lousy for developers. It's of course location dependant, but in the frankfurt metro area for instance private industry devs get 40-80% more depending on seniority and specialization

– Magisch
13 hours ago




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@Magisch Flesh that out a bit and that sounds like a good answer to me!

– motosubatsu
13 hours ago





@Magisch Flesh that out a bit and that sounds like a good answer to me!

– motosubatsu
13 hours ago













@Magisch But it’s correct to assume that the values in the table are the minimum salary for degree/years or experience?

– itsaMe
12 hours ago





@Magisch But it’s correct to assume that the values in the table are the minimum salary for degree/years or experience?

– itsaMe
12 hours ago










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There are job postings for software developers in public service, and they are usually in the E10..E12 range. But I'd say it's a bit low compared to industry, and some of those postings even say that they are willing to pay a bit more ("Zulage").



You could also compare this to IG Metall, which is quite a bit higher for the same levels, and has increased more in the last twenty years. A software developer would be in the EG 11..13 level in IG Metall, AFAIK.






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    There are job postings for software developers in public service, and they are usually in the E10..E12 range. But I'd say it's a bit low compared to industry, and some of those postings even say that they are willing to pay a bit more ("Zulage").



    You could also compare this to IG Metall, which is quite a bit higher for the same levels, and has increased more in the last twenty years. A software developer would be in the EG 11..13 level in IG Metall, AFAIK.






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      There are job postings for software developers in public service, and they are usually in the E10..E12 range. But I'd say it's a bit low compared to industry, and some of those postings even say that they are willing to pay a bit more ("Zulage").



      You could also compare this to IG Metall, which is quite a bit higher for the same levels, and has increased more in the last twenty years. A software developer would be in the EG 11..13 level in IG Metall, AFAIK.






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        There are job postings for software developers in public service, and they are usually in the E10..E12 range. But I'd say it's a bit low compared to industry, and some of those postings even say that they are willing to pay a bit more ("Zulage").



        You could also compare this to IG Metall, which is quite a bit higher for the same levels, and has increased more in the last twenty years. A software developer would be in the EG 11..13 level in IG Metall, AFAIK.






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        There are job postings for software developers in public service, and they are usually in the E10..E12 range. But I'd say it's a bit low compared to industry, and some of those postings even say that they are willing to pay a bit more ("Zulage").



        You could also compare this to IG Metall, which is quite a bit higher for the same levels, and has increased more in the last twenty years. A software developer would be in the EG 11..13 level in IG Metall, AFAIK.







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