Quitting a job and looking for another one afterwards
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I live in Europe right now and work as a fullstack dev in one company since over 2 years - my job was really uninteresting and unsatisfying for the past few months though. I want to not only change it but also to change a place of living (private reasons) - I've been looking for a job in Asia a lot recently in places like Hong Kong, Singapore, or Malaysia, but to no avail - companies just don't respond in 95% cases (remaining 5% are usually weak companies).
Therefore I can see two options - wait and continue looking, or quit a job and go live in some cheap part of Asia from where it would probably be much easier to get for an interview or communicate in general. I have a lot of money saved to do that, but I'm afraid that it won't solve any problems, and I will just go back to Europe afterwards.
Is quitting a job without a new one always a bad idea? Is it better to be on-site when looking for a job on another continent? Is this not too "unprofessional" career move to make?
Thanks for any suggestions!
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I live in Europe right now and work as a fullstack dev in one company since over 2 years - my job was really uninteresting and unsatisfying for the past few months though. I want to not only change it but also to change a place of living (private reasons) - I've been looking for a job in Asia a lot recently in places like Hong Kong, Singapore, or Malaysia, but to no avail - companies just don't respond in 95% cases (remaining 5% are usually weak companies).
Therefore I can see two options - wait and continue looking, or quit a job and go live in some cheap part of Asia from where it would probably be much easier to get for an interview or communicate in general. I have a lot of money saved to do that, but I'm afraid that it won't solve any problems, and I will just go back to Europe afterwards.
Is quitting a job without a new one always a bad idea? Is it better to be on-site when looking for a job on another continent? Is this not too "unprofessional" career move to make?
Thanks for any suggestions!
job-search job-change international
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Possible duplicate of Is it really that bad to leave my job as a software engineer before I have an offer?
– gnat
14 hours ago
3
How long can you afford to be without an income?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
1
"companies just don't respond in 95% cases (remaining 5% are usually weak companies)." - why do you suspect physically being in Asia would change that?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
At the moment, I agree with the duplicate. You've could pivot this question into "how could I improve my chances for being hired in a foreign country?"
– HorusKol
11 hours ago
2
You won't be able to do this. You can't just go "live in another country" - they will throw you out. You can go "live in HK" if you have about $15 million dollars to invest in a business (in that case they'll give you a certain type of visa).
– Fattie
8 hours ago
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I live in Europe right now and work as a fullstack dev in one company since over 2 years - my job was really uninteresting and unsatisfying for the past few months though. I want to not only change it but also to change a place of living (private reasons) - I've been looking for a job in Asia a lot recently in places like Hong Kong, Singapore, or Malaysia, but to no avail - companies just don't respond in 95% cases (remaining 5% are usually weak companies).
Therefore I can see two options - wait and continue looking, or quit a job and go live in some cheap part of Asia from where it would probably be much easier to get for an interview or communicate in general. I have a lot of money saved to do that, but I'm afraid that it won't solve any problems, and I will just go back to Europe afterwards.
Is quitting a job without a new one always a bad idea? Is it better to be on-site when looking for a job on another continent? Is this not too "unprofessional" career move to make?
Thanks for any suggestions!
job-search job-change international
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I live in Europe right now and work as a fullstack dev in one company since over 2 years - my job was really uninteresting and unsatisfying for the past few months though. I want to not only change it but also to change a place of living (private reasons) - I've been looking for a job in Asia a lot recently in places like Hong Kong, Singapore, or Malaysia, but to no avail - companies just don't respond in 95% cases (remaining 5% are usually weak companies).
Therefore I can see two options - wait and continue looking, or quit a job and go live in some cheap part of Asia from where it would probably be much easier to get for an interview or communicate in general. I have a lot of money saved to do that, but I'm afraid that it won't solve any problems, and I will just go back to Europe afterwards.
Is quitting a job without a new one always a bad idea? Is it better to be on-site when looking for a job on another continent? Is this not too "unprofessional" career move to make?
Thanks for any suggestions!
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Possible duplicate of Is it really that bad to leave my job as a software engineer before I have an offer?
– gnat
14 hours ago
3
How long can you afford to be without an income?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
1
"companies just don't respond in 95% cases (remaining 5% are usually weak companies)." - why do you suspect physically being in Asia would change that?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
At the moment, I agree with the duplicate. You've could pivot this question into "how could I improve my chances for being hired in a foreign country?"
– HorusKol
11 hours ago
2
You won't be able to do this. You can't just go "live in another country" - they will throw you out. You can go "live in HK" if you have about $15 million dollars to invest in a business (in that case they'll give you a certain type of visa).
– Fattie
8 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
1
Possible duplicate of Is it really that bad to leave my job as a software engineer before I have an offer?
– gnat
14 hours ago
3
How long can you afford to be without an income?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
1
"companies just don't respond in 95% cases (remaining 5% are usually weak companies)." - why do you suspect physically being in Asia would change that?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
At the moment, I agree with the duplicate. You've could pivot this question into "how could I improve my chances for being hired in a foreign country?"
– HorusKol
11 hours ago
2
You won't be able to do this. You can't just go "live in another country" - they will throw you out. You can go "live in HK" if you have about $15 million dollars to invest in a business (in that case they'll give you a certain type of visa).
– Fattie
8 hours ago
1
1
Possible duplicate of Is it really that bad to leave my job as a software engineer before I have an offer?
– gnat
14 hours ago
Possible duplicate of Is it really that bad to leave my job as a software engineer before I have an offer?
– gnat
14 hours ago
3
3
How long can you afford to be without an income?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
How long can you afford to be without an income?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
1
1
"companies just don't respond in 95% cases (remaining 5% are usually weak companies)." - why do you suspect physically being in Asia would change that?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
"companies just don't respond in 95% cases (remaining 5% are usually weak companies)." - why do you suspect physically being in Asia would change that?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
At the moment, I agree with the duplicate. You've could pivot this question into "how could I improve my chances for being hired in a foreign country?"
– HorusKol
11 hours ago
At the moment, I agree with the duplicate. You've could pivot this question into "how could I improve my chances for being hired in a foreign country?"
– HorusKol
11 hours ago
2
2
You won't be able to do this. You can't just go "live in another country" - they will throw you out. You can go "live in HK" if you have about $15 million dollars to invest in a business (in that case they'll give you a certain type of visa).
– Fattie
8 hours ago
You won't be able to do this. You can't just go "live in another country" - they will throw you out. You can go "live in HK" if you have about $15 million dollars to invest in a business (in that case they'll give you a certain type of visa).
– Fattie
8 hours ago
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Many companies (in Australia and New Zealand at least, it may or may not be the same in Asia but I'd imagine it's similar for good companies) won't interview candidates who are outside the country and/or don't have a valid work visa. The risk that the candidate will not be granted a visa or will change their mind about moving is high, and so it's commonly considered a waste of time.
My source for this is conversations I had with recruiters while applying to jobs in Australia from outside the country (with a valid visa). In my case it turned out that I received no interest during six months of applications from outside the country, but within three weeks of moving to Sydney I had two good job offers.
So first look at the visa requirements for the country you want to move to. Are you eligible for a working visa there? How long does the application process take, and what does it require? If you can't get a work visa then you can't work in that country no matter what.
Then do some job market research - try and get in touch with companies / recruiters / professionals in the area you want to work in, and see if you could expect interest in your CV if you were local, or if there's just not a good job market there at the moment. Then look at the cost of living and see if your savings will cover you if things go wrong and you aren't able to find employment after moving there (and don't forget that moving is really expensive too). Then take your research, weigh up the options, and make a decision.
you have a valid visa. I might say that your answer will just confuse the OP, who apparently thinks you can "just move" to different countries. (Yes, by all means, if you do have papers already, you must move first, as you explain. Nobody's going to care about you while you're still overseas. But again, it is unrelated to the question here.)
– Fattie
8 hours ago
2
@Fattie, possibly it will. I tried to call out the importance of the visa in the first paragraph, it probably belongs in the last one as well.
– Player One
8 hours ago
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companies just don't respond in 95% cases (remaining 5% are usually weak companies)
Why don't you think it the other way, your qualification belongs to the bottom 5% cases?
Full stack programmers are everywhere, lot's of Chinese cheap but talent programmers.
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Many companies (in Australia and New Zealand at least, it may or may not be the same in Asia but I'd imagine it's similar for good companies) won't interview candidates who are outside the country and/or don't have a valid work visa. The risk that the candidate will not be granted a visa or will change their mind about moving is high, and so it's commonly considered a waste of time.
My source for this is conversations I had with recruiters while applying to jobs in Australia from outside the country (with a valid visa). In my case it turned out that I received no interest during six months of applications from outside the country, but within three weeks of moving to Sydney I had two good job offers.
So first look at the visa requirements for the country you want to move to. Are you eligible for a working visa there? How long does the application process take, and what does it require? If you can't get a work visa then you can't work in that country no matter what.
Then do some job market research - try and get in touch with companies / recruiters / professionals in the area you want to work in, and see if you could expect interest in your CV if you were local, or if there's just not a good job market there at the moment. Then look at the cost of living and see if your savings will cover you if things go wrong and you aren't able to find employment after moving there (and don't forget that moving is really expensive too). Then take your research, weigh up the options, and make a decision.
you have a valid visa. I might say that your answer will just confuse the OP, who apparently thinks you can "just move" to different countries. (Yes, by all means, if you do have papers already, you must move first, as you explain. Nobody's going to care about you while you're still overseas. But again, it is unrelated to the question here.)
– Fattie
8 hours ago
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@Fattie, possibly it will. I tried to call out the importance of the visa in the first paragraph, it probably belongs in the last one as well.
– Player One
8 hours ago
add a comment |
Many companies (in Australia and New Zealand at least, it may or may not be the same in Asia but I'd imagine it's similar for good companies) won't interview candidates who are outside the country and/or don't have a valid work visa. The risk that the candidate will not be granted a visa or will change their mind about moving is high, and so it's commonly considered a waste of time.
My source for this is conversations I had with recruiters while applying to jobs in Australia from outside the country (with a valid visa). In my case it turned out that I received no interest during six months of applications from outside the country, but within three weeks of moving to Sydney I had two good job offers.
So first look at the visa requirements for the country you want to move to. Are you eligible for a working visa there? How long does the application process take, and what does it require? If you can't get a work visa then you can't work in that country no matter what.
Then do some job market research - try and get in touch with companies / recruiters / professionals in the area you want to work in, and see if you could expect interest in your CV if you were local, or if there's just not a good job market there at the moment. Then look at the cost of living and see if your savings will cover you if things go wrong and you aren't able to find employment after moving there (and don't forget that moving is really expensive too). Then take your research, weigh up the options, and make a decision.
you have a valid visa. I might say that your answer will just confuse the OP, who apparently thinks you can "just move" to different countries. (Yes, by all means, if you do have papers already, you must move first, as you explain. Nobody's going to care about you while you're still overseas. But again, it is unrelated to the question here.)
– Fattie
8 hours ago
2
@Fattie, possibly it will. I tried to call out the importance of the visa in the first paragraph, it probably belongs in the last one as well.
– Player One
8 hours ago
add a comment |
Many companies (in Australia and New Zealand at least, it may or may not be the same in Asia but I'd imagine it's similar for good companies) won't interview candidates who are outside the country and/or don't have a valid work visa. The risk that the candidate will not be granted a visa or will change their mind about moving is high, and so it's commonly considered a waste of time.
My source for this is conversations I had with recruiters while applying to jobs in Australia from outside the country (with a valid visa). In my case it turned out that I received no interest during six months of applications from outside the country, but within three weeks of moving to Sydney I had two good job offers.
So first look at the visa requirements for the country you want to move to. Are you eligible for a working visa there? How long does the application process take, and what does it require? If you can't get a work visa then you can't work in that country no matter what.
Then do some job market research - try and get in touch with companies / recruiters / professionals in the area you want to work in, and see if you could expect interest in your CV if you were local, or if there's just not a good job market there at the moment. Then look at the cost of living and see if your savings will cover you if things go wrong and you aren't able to find employment after moving there (and don't forget that moving is really expensive too). Then take your research, weigh up the options, and make a decision.
Many companies (in Australia and New Zealand at least, it may or may not be the same in Asia but I'd imagine it's similar for good companies) won't interview candidates who are outside the country and/or don't have a valid work visa. The risk that the candidate will not be granted a visa or will change their mind about moving is high, and so it's commonly considered a waste of time.
My source for this is conversations I had with recruiters while applying to jobs in Australia from outside the country (with a valid visa). In my case it turned out that I received no interest during six months of applications from outside the country, but within three weeks of moving to Sydney I had two good job offers.
So first look at the visa requirements for the country you want to move to. Are you eligible for a working visa there? How long does the application process take, and what does it require? If you can't get a work visa then you can't work in that country no matter what.
Then do some job market research - try and get in touch with companies / recruiters / professionals in the area you want to work in, and see if you could expect interest in your CV if you were local, or if there's just not a good job market there at the moment. Then look at the cost of living and see if your savings will cover you if things go wrong and you aren't able to find employment after moving there (and don't forget that moving is really expensive too). Then take your research, weigh up the options, and make a decision.
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you have a valid visa. I might say that your answer will just confuse the OP, who apparently thinks you can "just move" to different countries. (Yes, by all means, if you do have papers already, you must move first, as you explain. Nobody's going to care about you while you're still overseas. But again, it is unrelated to the question here.)
– Fattie
8 hours ago
2
@Fattie, possibly it will. I tried to call out the importance of the visa in the first paragraph, it probably belongs in the last one as well.
– Player One
8 hours ago
add a comment |
you have a valid visa. I might say that your answer will just confuse the OP, who apparently thinks you can "just move" to different countries. (Yes, by all means, if you do have papers already, you must move first, as you explain. Nobody's going to care about you while you're still overseas. But again, it is unrelated to the question here.)
– Fattie
8 hours ago
2
@Fattie, possibly it will. I tried to call out the importance of the visa in the first paragraph, it probably belongs in the last one as well.
– Player One
8 hours ago
you have a valid visa. I might say that your answer will just confuse the OP, who apparently thinks you can "just move" to different countries. (Yes, by all means, if you do have papers already, you must move first, as you explain. Nobody's going to care about you while you're still overseas. But again, it is unrelated to the question here.)
– Fattie
8 hours ago
you have a valid visa. I might say that your answer will just confuse the OP, who apparently thinks you can "just move" to different countries. (Yes, by all means, if you do have papers already, you must move first, as you explain. Nobody's going to care about you while you're still overseas. But again, it is unrelated to the question here.)
– Fattie
8 hours ago
2
2
@Fattie, possibly it will. I tried to call out the importance of the visa in the first paragraph, it probably belongs in the last one as well.
– Player One
8 hours ago
@Fattie, possibly it will. I tried to call out the importance of the visa in the first paragraph, it probably belongs in the last one as well.
– Player One
8 hours ago
add a comment |
companies just don't respond in 95% cases (remaining 5% are usually weak companies)
Why don't you think it the other way, your qualification belongs to the bottom 5% cases?
Full stack programmers are everywhere, lot's of Chinese cheap but talent programmers.
add a comment |
companies just don't respond in 95% cases (remaining 5% are usually weak companies)
Why don't you think it the other way, your qualification belongs to the bottom 5% cases?
Full stack programmers are everywhere, lot's of Chinese cheap but talent programmers.
add a comment |
companies just don't respond in 95% cases (remaining 5% are usually weak companies)
Why don't you think it the other way, your qualification belongs to the bottom 5% cases?
Full stack programmers are everywhere, lot's of Chinese cheap but talent programmers.
companies just don't respond in 95% cases (remaining 5% are usually weak companies)
Why don't you think it the other way, your qualification belongs to the bottom 5% cases?
Full stack programmers are everywhere, lot's of Chinese cheap but talent programmers.
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Possible duplicate of Is it really that bad to leave my job as a software engineer before I have an offer?
– gnat
14 hours ago
3
How long can you afford to be without an income?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
1
"companies just don't respond in 95% cases (remaining 5% are usually weak companies)." - why do you suspect physically being in Asia would change that?
– Joe Strazzere
13 hours ago
At the moment, I agree with the duplicate. You've could pivot this question into "how could I improve my chances for being hired in a foreign country?"
– HorusKol
11 hours ago
2
You won't be able to do this. You can't just go "live in another country" - they will throw you out. You can go "live in HK" if you have about $15 million dollars to invest in a business (in that case they'll give you a certain type of visa).
– Fattie
8 hours ago